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7.8 Hertz Resonant Circuit

Started by braden, December 09, 2009, 11:41:47 AM

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Quote from: tim123 on January 20, 2014, 01:35:32 PM
Talking about Tesla, secret patents, and HAARP... I think it's possible he invented the 'ionospheric heater' in order to make it oscillate...

It would mean that we were inside a capacitor - where the plates were moving back & forth with a fixed period...

If Tesla could have made the ionosphere oscillate with a given period, it would then be possible to build tuned capacitive 'energy sucking' antennas - anywhere on earth - to draw power directly from the ionosphere.

Now that really would be *free energy*

I assume that the ionosphere would have various natural modes of oscillation, and it would probably be quite easy to pick one, and set it off.
no more in internet here some "evolution of Tesla science" :(

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AlienGrey


FEFarming

Quote from: tim123 on January 20, 2014, 02:52:25 PM
It depends which system you're talking about.

His 'magnifying transmitter' used a ground to air circuit, and power could be taken off by 2 plates just in the ground.

The system I was referring to is different.

Hello Tim123, I ve read this whole thread and I ve seen you ve quote some bible verses, and I have a huge thing to ask if you have some free time and you may be willing to help me and who knows, maybe you too by applying the same math you use to calculate for the planet earth and apply it on the Earth described in Bible in the Genesis and maybe you let me know  what data you came up with , what would be its size and what else can you calculate out of the data you find in the bible ? I m asking you as I have mostly no experience in electronics, and truly hope you will find it interesting enough to try to find out the outcome.

Tesla has a very interesting quote that also supports the model in the bible so who knows where these leads:
"Earth is a realm, it is not a planet. It is not an object, therefore, it has no edge. Earth would be more easily defined as a system environment. Earth is also a machine. It is a tesla coil. The sun and moon are powered wirelessly with the electromagnetic field (the Aether). This field also suspends the celestial spheres with electromagnetic levitation. Electromagnetic levitation disproves gravity because the only force you need to counter is the electromagnetic force,"

Hope I m not losing anyone's time here , it might be just harder to swallow for some readers.

SolarLab

F.Y.I.

NOTE: This was originally posted in the Westey thread however it has since been censored (removed). Two very good papers regarding Schumann Resonance are included below so it is reposted here for those that might be interested in some valid proven scientific information.

[Pre-] Review of the "Schumann-Kapanadze" postulation

Literature suggests (first paper - see below) that at low frequencies the earth/ionosphere cavity does support the formation of a set of maxima power sprectra in the vertical electric and horizontal magnetic fields.

To investigate this further we will first conduct an initial CAE Comsol analysis; as outlined in the second referenced paper (see below), before attempting further review and analysis of the postulation under discussion. It appears the Schumann models using Comsol Multiphysics have already been developed and tested.

1. Extremely Low Frequency(ELF) Radio Wave Propagation: A review (IJEAR) 

https://www.spirit-science.fr/ArchivesScientifiques/2016Nikolayenko.pdf   

Abstract
The Extremely Low Frequencies  (ELF)  extend  from  3  Hz  to  3  kHz.  This  formal  limit corresponds  to  real  physical  phenomena  in  subionospheric  radio  propagation:  the Schumann Resonance  (SR) observed  in  the  band  between  4Hzand  40  Hz  and  the  transverse  resonance having the basic frequency about 1.7 kHz. When speaking about ELF radio waves, we usually have  in mind  the  subionospheric  propagation  when  electromagnetic  wave  travels  in  the spherical dielectric stratum formed by the Earth‟s surface and the lower edge of the ionospheric plasma. The dielectric shell has a small thickness of about 60–100 km in comparison with the Earth‟s radius of ~6366 km. This non-conducting layer forms a spherical cavity resonator, with two  sets  of  eigen-values.  One  of  them  corresponds  to  the  global  electromagnetic  resonance predicted   by Schumann[1952], which is   often   regarded   as   SR.   Its   peak   frequencies (frequencies of maxima  in the power spectra of natural ELF radio noise) are approximately 8, 14,  20,  Hz,  etc.  At  such  low  frequencies,  only  transverse  electromagnetic  (TEM)  wave propagates  in  the  cavity  having  the  non-zero  vertical  electric Erand  horizontal  magnetic Hjfield components. If we account for the finite ground conductivity, a small longitudinal electric field Eqappears. It is clear that we use the spherical polar coordinate system (r, q, j) with the origin at the Earth's center  and  the  polar q=  0  axis  directed  to  the  vertical  electric  dipole source.

Owing to small losses and a great wavelength, the resonance  signals can multiply & circle the  globe,  so  that  direct  and  antipodal  waves  interfere  forming  a  set  of  maxima  in  the  power spectrum  of  vertical  electric  or  horizontal  magnetic  fields  positioned  at  the  above-mentioned frequencies.  Lightning  strokes  of  the  global  thunderstorms  occurring  at  the  rate  of  50–100 discharges per second serve as the source of natural ELFradio noise. SR might be regarded as "longitudinal" one: it occurs in the waves propagating along the Earth‟s surface.

The second type of resonance corresponds to vertically propagating radio waves, therefore,it is  called  the  transverse  resonance.Relevant  waves  are  capturedbetween the ground  and ionosphere, so that their basic frequency depends  on the  ionosphere  height and is  equal to 1.7 kHz when the thickness of the ground–ionosphere gap is 88 km. Transverse resonance is a local phenomenon, because it   is   not   linked   with   the   round-the-world   propagation.   In   radio engineering, the eigen-values of transverse resonance are regardedas cutoff frequencies of the modes propagating in the Earth–ionosphere duct. The basic frequency is the cut-off frequency of  the  first-order  mode,  the  second-order  mode  has  the  cutoff  equal  to  the  doubled  basic frequency   of   transverse   resonance,   etc.   Obviously,   only   the   basic   transverse   resonance frequency definitely  belongs  to  the  ELF  band, while  the higher-order  modes  arefound  within the very low frequency (VLF) band.

2. Theoretical and experimental studies of electromagneticresonances in the ionospheric cavities of planets andsatellites; instrument and mission perspectives    -  Thesis by Fernando Dos Santos Simoes

https://tel.archives-ouvertes.fr/tel-00811520/document

Abstract (in part)
The  study  of  extremely  low  frequency  electromagnetic  wave  propagation  in  the  ionospheric  cavities of celestial bodies in the Solar System follows an approach similar to that developed for  Earth.  It  contributes  to  the  characterization  of  the  atmospheric  electric  circuit  and  associated energy sources, and to the identification of the inner and outer cavity boundaries. A wave  propagation  finite  element  model  is  developed  and  applied  to  all  planets  and  satellites  surrounded  by  an  atmosphere,  with  the  aim  of  studying,  in  particular,  the  Schumann  resonance  phenomenon.  The  input  parameters  of  the  model  are:  (a)  the  geometry  of  the  cavity, (b) the ionized atmosphere characteristics, (c) the neutral atmosphere refractivity and (d) the top subsurface complex permittivity. The simulation yields the eigenfrequency and Q-factors of the resonance and the distribution of the electric field in the cavity.

Of particular interest is where this author uses COMSOL CAE : "The  numerical  model  to  study  wave  propagation  is  based  on  several tools available in the COMSOL Multiphysics software, which uses the finite element method to solve specific equations."
This will allow for a quick comparison of supported Schumann resonance frequencies with those known, from EM CAE analysis and subsequent VNA tests of the so called grenade coil, to have been used in the Kapanadze generation device.

Although this post will likely be censored (removed as many others have been), I will post it anyway - just to maintain the committment that "We're at least 'trying' to do 'our' part!" by investigating, to the best of our ability, theoretically wise, various claims of excess energy.
[EDIT: This post was censored (removed) from westeys thread as predicted.] Also; unfortunately it is now confirmed that this forum has become unusable, especially to those that are interested in valid science and engineering development. Too bad!

The attached papers are long and very technical in nature but contain some excellent information regarding Schumann Resonance.

FIN


skywatcher

Schumann waves are so low-power that they require high-sensitive receivers to be detected. They are many orders of magnitude weaker than any normal electro-smog.