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Constant flux DC motor/generator.

Started by broli, December 13, 2009, 07:08:05 PM

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lumen

@Broli,

I just want to say that I really like your designs!
You always come up with the most unusual concepts that that show some advanced mental perception.

:)

jadaro2600

I recently built an opposed fields modeled motor, with a shoddy connection, it spins, it pulses it self around and spins, but with a continuous current, it locks itself to the reference frame.

It was three north poles, faced inwards and a simple coil ( vertical ) with fields in opposition faced inwards.  The coil in inside the opposed fields.  It did function with an intermittent connection.  It's no better than that coiled wire motor ( simple electric motor model ).  SO there's nothing new happening here with this.

:(

gravityblock

jadaro,

What does your experiment prove or disprove about broli's concept?  Your experiment doesn't confine the magnetic field when the same poles are all facing inwards.  The fact that it only functioned on an intermittent connection is evidence of it being a pulse motor based on a changing magnetic field and would produce AC if ran as a generator.

The ferro-material in Broli's device confines the magnetic field and is based on a constant uniform field, thus a "Constant flux DC motor/generator" for the topic of this thread.  It will work on a continuous DC connection.

Your experiment doesn't prove or disprove nothing about this concept.  I already posted 3 videos supporting this idea and broli has posted links to other similar experiments supporting it, but somehow your experiment triumphs over all of the other supporting videos and links when your setup has nothing in common with what this concept is based on.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

jadaro2600

Quote from: gravityblock on December 17, 2009, 06:53:10 AM
jadaro,

What does your experiment prove or disprove about broli's concept?  Your experiment doesn't confine the magnetic field when the same poles are all facing inwards.  The fact that it only functioned on an intermittent connection is evidence of it being a pulse motor based on a changing magnetic field and producing AC.

The ferro-material in Broli's device confines the magnetic field and is based on a constant uniform field, thus a "Constant flux DC motor/generator" for the topic of this thread.  It will work on a continuous DC connection.

Your experiment doesn't prove or disprove nothing about this concept.  I already posted 3 videos supporting this idea and there has been links provided that supports the concept with other experiments also, but somehow your experiment triumphs over all of the other supporting videos and links when it has nothing in common with the Broli's device.

GB

..well then allow me to post my failures for you benefit. The attempt was genuine.

Your attacks are unwarranted!  My attempt was for the thread topic, the result was not.  It was noted.

It would be nice to have mention of failed ideas; it's a time saving mechanism.

Furthermore, I don't see how your video posts suggest anything about broli's design either. ..in that case you are just as off-topic as I am.  The videos linked..
Quote from: gravityblock on December 17, 2009, 06:53:10 AMdoesn't prove or disprove nothing about this concept.

This thread was titled thus, and it seems reasonable to post information about constant flux continuous flux motor attempts here; if the thread is intended to be about this specific motor, under it's specific conditions then it should be titled something like "Broli's constant flux continuous current motor"..etc

You are disregarding the idea that other motors utilizing the same principles may exist, may be of different design, and may be worthy of mention.

I think what he's trying to do is escape the reference frame.  The best thing to do is WARP the reference frame in favor of the rotation.

I can see how is design may work, my designs thus far have been contingent upon these same concepts; however I lack to tools needed to confirm his specific design.

jadaro2600

This is figure 2, as broli mentioned.

The reference frame wants to align.  Since one is stationary, the other is free to rotate, it does so until it aligns, this is principally why commutators are needed.

if both were free to rotate, the would both move a distance together like closing a book.

we need a warped field motor...which is find impossible anyway, seeing as how the fields will find some resting state somewhere.

edit, it may be prudent to actually post the picture heh?