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Constant flux DC motor/generator.

Started by broli, December 13, 2009, 07:08:05 PM

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leeanderthal

@ Broli
Sorry, It is not my intention to rain on anybody's parade. I just tend to think in terms of practicality.  I fully appreciate your thoughts and solutions for the puzzle at hand.
I can see how the posted design could work as a motor.  But why not a generator?
Do you believe that as a motor it would not have BEMF because of a uniform field?

Lee

broli

As a generator you would need to rotate the conductor loop. If you start rotating the loop, in the last design, the wire pieces between the two gaps will generate an EMF. But since the direction of speed and their magnitude are the same AND the direction of field and their magnitude are the same they will both generate an EMF that cancels the other thus there would be no net EMF. This is like moving a rectangular conductor loop in a constant uniform field. You can see that the single wire pieces do get polarized but in a loop they all cancel out. So this is why it probably won't generate. You can heavily modify it and make it generate but then you will end up with a homopolar motor with back torque....as far as I know. Nothing I say is fact even if it's something very obvious, that is why I would like to encourage others to get involved and get the experiments out.

leeanderthal

I was thinking that as a generator not rotating the conductor loop but rotating the left and right components in opposite directions.  Just as it would operate as a motor.

Lee

broli

Quote from: leeanderthal on December 14, 2009, 03:53:32 PM
I was thinking that as a generator not rotating the conductor loop but rotating the left and right components in opposite directions.  Just as it would operate as a motor.

Lee

this would do nothing. Just like in a homopolar generator rotating a magnet in front of a stationary disc.

leeanderthal

Ok, if you were to take the magnets out of the center of you design and place them around the rims of the left and right components with opposite poles facing each other.  I think that it would then operate as a generator.  How would this then affect the objective of your design?

Lee