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Brushless Homopolar N-Machine Idea ...

Started by CompuTutor, December 23, 2009, 09:41:51 PM

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Foggy-Notion

Well "Half Baked Ideas" under any other name,
is still usually where most of the world's best
inventions came from.

That Illustration looks interesting.

I was wondering (forgive me if it's already been mentioned)
But I was wondering if a jet of water were used to spin the disc,
the way air or water spins a Tesla Turbine, would that water
conduct a current like a brush, but not slow down the wheel?
It is after all, the driving force.  How well water conducts is
another story, well, not "well water" but,..

...what, ...one Starbucks is all I had.





CompuTutor

I've bit my tongue like a million times one this topic as it helps this site exist,
but I just have to ask if we are all seeing the same thing.

The above post has (Of all things...) "Half Baked" high-lighted as the "Phrase Of Choice" of what people think important enough to purchase.

But upon hovering over it,
it is an ad for auto brake repair.

What does brake repair have to do with half baked ?

OK, I refreshed and other words were high-lighted now...



Thank you for stopping the autoplay on the pendulum video on the home page !  :)  :)  :)

I hated pausing that every time I checked for newests posts.



Heheh Foggy, your not on a caffeine-meter or ration sanction here,
something tells me it only exacerbates your current mental state anyway.

A mercury jet instead of water?
Perhaps in a vacuum enviroment to eliminate drag.

To bad mercury is so fatel and crusts upon exposure to air so badly.
Original trials had to float oil to keep mercury from crusting in the wells.

CompuTutor

Quote from: phoneboy link=topic=8516.msg221573#msg221573 A=1263249934
.....what if we mimicked the way lightning formed.....


PhoneBoy,
I'm thankful for the submission of course,
but could you share your thinking a bit more ?

The set of numerous things that happen in the formation
of charge/finger/discharge in lightning lends me to need to ask.

Which phase are you referring to?

Here is what I can say is probably and error on my part.
A direct short to the disc has three possibilities.

The disc melts,
the shorting bar melts,
but most probably the brushes/contacts melt (First).

So the heating issue would have to be carefully persued.

But the idea you have has merit
as long as you change your idea a touch.

The disc needs to build the potential
across the whole disc's surface.

But if my original question is stands true,
and the potential can be harvested from the edge
without contact that is in motion in relation to the disc.

Then an insulator across the majority of the disc's surface,
but allowing your idea to make conact at the center and edge only.

Might yield a viable idea.

But I want to understand your idea still.
Charge to plasma is an awsome concept to follow.  :)



Edit:
Upon thinking this over,
and as my original question still stands.

Whom is to say that a pair of disc's
with opposite magnet forces acting upon it
don't have a potential dipole at all points
of opposing face from the center to the edge.

If true, a medium sensitive to the dipole
could and would react to advantage.  :)


phoneboy

@ CompuTutor, the idea was that the most common form of lightning as a whole is due to a buildup of negative charge - clouds/positive charge - ground with air as a dielectric and its subsequent breakdown.  If the generator was also technically parallel capacitors with common + wouldn't charge build up as the current flowed across the discs to the periphery?  As long as the load performs work we shouldn't have heating problems?  Also, as far a a brushless setup goes I think Mr. Wilkes rolamite can work as a bearing and pickup in one with low friction similar to the belt drive used by tesla in his unipolar dynamo.   

Foggy-Notion

There are other liquid metals less toxic than mercury.
Can build these with the shaft vertical, and wheel horizontal,
Then use the Bill Beaty Pipe Cap Brush Design.
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/freenrg/n-mach.html