Cooling effects in Steorn eOrbo

[neptune]

Just a couple of idiotic questions . How does one chose suitable toroids for this device? How do you work out the number of turns. This is not as simple as it sounds. The object as I understand it is to saturate the core. Just suppose that the core saturates at 100 amp turns.  and suppose that 100 turns of a given gauge of wire has a resistance of 1ohm. to find the necessary input voltage to give 1 amp , V+IR so, 1volt . Now we rewind it with wire twice as long . so now the resistance is 2 ohms , and we ave 200 turns. we still use a 1volt supply . But now the current is , I =V/R = 1/2 amp.  But now we have a problem. In the first example , power =I XV = 1 watt. In example 2 , power = IxV =1x1/2 = 0.5 watts . So now we are saturating the core with half the power. If we double the wire length again we use one quarter the power. What is going on here please?

[PaulLowrance]

I just did another experiment. A new toroid and magnets were used, and the entire experiment was moved to a different location, about 50 feet away in a different room.

After starting the dremel motor the toroid / magnet temperature decreased 2.1°F in ~ a minute, according to the IR gun, and stayed there for only a few minutes where the toroid / magnet temperature then began to slowly increase in a matter of a few minutes.

So the temperature drop was short lived in this experiment, which brings up a possible issue for people who do not have fast reacting temperature meters. For this experiment you need something that reacts in a matter of seconds. What is meant by react is how long it takes the probe / device change by an appreciable percentage. Of course if you place a hot iron on the probe it's going to increase almost instantly, but that's not have fast it reacts by a certain percentage. The hot iron may be 100°F hotter, and it might take only 1 second for the meter to show a 1°F, but it could take 5 minutes to show a 50% temperature change. So if the toroid temperature decreases by 2°F, then it would take such a meter 5 minutes to show a 1°F change.

Test your temperature meter to see how long it takes to change by say 80%. You could for instance take the temperature meter outside and time how long it takes to settle down to the new temperature.

Anyhow, I don't know why this run did not last that long. The ambient temperature was 62.8°F, which is colder than the first run shown in the video. Maybe there was not as much dark energy in this room. 

[onthecuttingedge2005]

I just did another experiment. A new toroid and magnets were used, and the entire experiment was moved to a different location, about 50 feet away in a different room.

After starting the dremel motor the toroid / magnet temperature decreased 2.1°F in ~ a minute, according to the IR gun, and stayed there for only a few minutes where the toroid / magnet temperature then began to slowly increase in a matter of a few minutes.

So the temperature drop was short lived in this experiment, which brings up a possible issue for people who do not have fast reacting temperature meters. For this experiment you need something that reacts in a matter of seconds. What is meant by react is how long it takes the probe / device change by an appreciable percentage. Of course if you place a hot iron on the probe it's going to increase almost instantly, but that's not have fast it reacts by a certain percentage. The hot iron may be 100°F hotter, and it might take only 1 second for the meter to show a 1°F, but it could take 5 minutes to show a 50% temperature change. So if the toroid temperature decreases by 2°F, then it would take such a meter 5 minutes to show a 1°F change.

Test your temperature meter to see how long it takes to change by say 80%. You could for instance take the temperature meter outside and time how long it takes to settle down to the new temperature.

Anyhow, I don't know why this run did not last that long. The ambient temperature was 62.8°F, which is colder than the first run shown in the video. Maybe there was not as much dark energy in this room. 

Temperature probes are nice but if you really want to get serious then also use thermal goggles with it. thermal goggles will show you every little heat leakage from every part visually.

Jerry

[PaulLowrance]

A FLIR camera would be nice, but they're expensive.

Small 402 SMD thermistors react almost instantly. IR guns react in fast as well, less than a second.

[PaulLowrance]

BTW, now I am beginning to lean toward the magnets as being the cold source. This is one area I have not analyzed yet, so we'll see if it's the magnets or toroid. If it's the magnets, then you'll need either an IR gun (thermal gun) or a thermal camera since they're spinning. .. Well, if you quickly stop the machine, then maybe one could come up with a method of quickly placing a small thermistor on a magnet to get its temperature. That's better than nothing.