Hairpin Project

[forest]

Read this thread : http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5132-1872-elihu-thomson-anyone-got-document-scientific-american-1872-a.html

[jeanna]

Hi all,
It seems to me we already have something very close.

The jtc with secondary is very close to the hairpin circuit.
If you try to draw your secondary circuit the way tesla drew his I think you will see this.
I have switched over, because it makes such good sense.

If 1.2v going to 2,000 volts at 1.2khz is too low, I am at a loss.
If you cannot figure how to increase it without starting higher, I think you are going to blow yourself up!

Every element you will need in the hairpin circuit is already there, except for the plasma.
And that is easy if you want it.
It is easy to break the circuit open and get some plasma.
This will let you know if breaking the circuit or an additional series inductor is what you need to increase the volts.

AFAIK the only real limit is the original frequency.
It appears to me that the original frequency gets "used up" when you add a load.

Great thread Gary!!

jeanna

btw Karl Palsness did a very nice replication.
This is the short direct version.
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Palsness#p/u/4/rDWF50fUoYY
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[Magluvin]

Hi Jeanna
I suppose, and I had just wrote this in Teslas car thread, that i am more interested in Teslas independent recievers that pulled power without transmitters, after they demolished his tower and lab. He worked with these and eventually got it to run a motor and planned to distribute them to all in his last dream of dreams. It is what he ran the Peirce Arrow with I would say. But what freq and what means was he able to accomplish this? I venture to say that he already had it in his previous receivers and just figured out the tuning for what already existed in natures freq to get it working.
I really dont want sparks and streamers, although it may look cool riding down the road as if the car is spewing white fire all over. Beats neon.
But the idea of Impulse DC spark creating these effects is worth experimenting to get closer to the answers.
The JT, is this AC you are working with?

Mags cap gaps     Still sounds good. =]

[resonanceman]

These look like what we may want, not sure, but they are pre made tiny spark gaps tuned for peak voltages and rated in kilo amps
http://www.circuitprotection.com/gdt.asp

Mags cap gaps

Magluvin

You are good at finding things 



The first gas discharge tube  you found was the one that they tried on the other thread

This one looks better though ....... I would think we would want the one of the largest  we can get  and still have the low DC flash over point  ....this is 75 V    very easy to make  with a JT
The larger size would help  dissipate more heat.
I think these things  are designed for an occasional pulse.......not constant use.

On a larger JT we could try a small cap in front  of the discharge tube  ........it would  add a bit of punch when it reaches 75V


gary

[Magluvin]

Punch is a good word for impulse.

Mags gas gap     =]