Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

[agentgates]

For those who are in trouble with the thicker secondary winding:

http://www.samsonium.org/sites/default/files/P1100283.JPG

I use fast bonding epoxy for the edge around to make a support for the next turns, thus they will not run off. Don't use superglue on very hard wire or if you have acrylic as ketone has.

[mflynn44]

The secondary acts as if it were a capacitor but the actual mechanism is the rotating field  generating a continuous DC output which looks like capacitor action. Does this initial starting pulse complicate our electronic driving circuit? Also, for the most efficient device, Mannix will need to wind his coils in the reverse direction.

Yes. There is two way to do it. You give it a single big spike and many A ones to keep it rotating. The other solution is simpler: start slapping it up with higher voltage and when you reached the demanded output voltage just keep it up with the tiny slaps. Only a few mA you need to keep it spinning, not more.

[agentgates]

The secondary acts as if it were a capacitor but the actual mechanism is the rotating field  generating a continuous DC output which looks like capacitor action.

Yes, it is like a virtual capacitor.

Does this initial starting pulse complicate our electronic driving circuit?

No, those are 2 options. The second is easier to keep the circuitry simple. You only need variable input voltage but if you set it to a fix voltage will also work. But perhaps you will need to wait a couple of seconds while it spins up. (The JET-turbine effect that SM mentioned) Actually you will be able to vary the output with the frequency alteration but that will be not that efficient. (for now it is enough, you need the variable input only if you want the maximum from your device )

Also, for the most efficient device, Mannix will need to wind his coils in the reverse direction.

I don't know yet, we will find out. If his device won't work with the same winding on the southern hemisphere then it is a possibility.

[teslaalset]

@ Tony,
I am about to wind my first coil after finishing my drive electronics and Arduino software.

When 45 degrees is used, the wires at the inner side of the tube have quite some distance from the tube itself.
Is that OK or should I stick the wires to the inner tube with tape or glue?

[Magluvin]

So are you saying that these spinning fields have a flywheel effect, as in inertial effects that are not restricted due to proper spacing? So in a standard solenoid coil, the proximity and direction of the wraps impedes the flywheel effect? Well if I remember correctly, Enik from the Land Of The Lost said the same thing!  just kidding =]  We need a laugh.
Well I have seen many coils lately that have some pacing between wires and maybe some crossings, depending on the direction the spiral happens.
Is it this flywheel effect what we have not noticed before? I remember many old photos of single conductor experiments, maybe that is where the real discoveries lie. Maybe these ideas were shut down back then.
Well that poses many ways of taking advantage of the effect. Like the eorbo and now the solid state.
It would be interesting to find the maximum diameter from the wire axis these fields have negligible effect. This would give us optimal spacing. One thing that still remains unknown is how the proximity of the inner primary affects the secondary or does it need be close like the outer.  Consider the effect of only the outer primary on the secondary , if the outer primary is made to be outside the secondary, the dc should be one direction, the polarity on the secondary would change if the secondary were wound outside. So the inner primary can be in close proximity, as long as it is on the proper side of the secondary in order to complement the outer primary objective. This all sounds so lost in space, but it makes a whole bunch of sense. And its easy to follow.
An investigation should be had on the primaries effects on itself as to how those lil flywheels are affecting the input.
Welp, I hope this is how the world spins. And by yer copper while you can.

Mags