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Agentgates´s TPU setup with strange wavehill hump

Started by agentgates, January 05, 2010, 09:28:18 AM

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heloo agentgates GREAT WORK  KEEP GOING DONT  GET LOW WHIT  SOME POST HERE

@harti
way yuo say now that is maybe  <there diode to have the pulse ther in the secundary YOU TRAING TO  PUT DOWN THE  <AGENTGATES>
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beboszek

@ Stefan & @zerotensor
QuoteThe hump wave from Marek looks interesting, but maybe it is really
from the diode ?
&
QuoteI think the shape of the waveform is partially due to the load being a resistor and diode in parallel.
You are wrong guys! For clarity I will say, that without ANY load waveform looks identical.

@Tony
QuoteYes you can not make OU with one primary without other parts like a good LC pair.
Tony, for this moment Im doing research, not OU, because the most important thing is to understand the nature of the effect and then maximize it and make useful. Btw, I noticed some very interesting things that will try to work on today.

@Tony
QuoteThese spikes won't even change in my previous setup (3 primary with the same one turn secondary, 20-30V 100-200mA, 87Hz) when I put a 50W 240 halogene bulb on it. They just don't care about your load.
Calculate the resistance/impedance of Your bulb and compare it to the output impedance of TPU :) I have the same effect but this one is regular physics.

@Tony
QuoteSimilar, but I don't have those ugly "afterhumps".  Only the big ones. You perhaps driving it in current mode.
I know what is the cause of this "afterhumbs", but have to verify this. None of you guys is correct about them. I will write why is that when I gain some more knowledge. Im not a PC hero type.
About current mode: There is no such thing. When you driving your coil with resistor 20ohm in series, how much voltage is left for your few ohms coil? 1/3, 1/10 ? The most of voltage is on the resistor, not a coil. If you want voltage driven coil that means current in it as well


@Stefan
QuotePlease try with different load resistors and without load resistors
and with more turns
With all due respect Stefan; as I wrote above, now Im focused on understanding effect, not building everything and anyhow. If I see sth interesting again, I will post
Yes, its 50% duty cycle sq wave

Marek

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@marek

It good to see that somebody else able to see this weird effect.

I do agree that my curiosity is aroused and confused as to its nature, the way is is centred above the unit for example.
It does not couple like a normal coil would.

Tonys explanation does seem to hold some water but even he would agree that its just a theory at this stage

I was surprised that when i reversed my cro leads on the output my reading changed to "normal"

Im am still unable to quantify why I only see it on some ranges..with different cro leads. I have good ones, and cheap ones.

I look foward to your further analysis

lindsay

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@BEBOSEZEK you especkt to find resolts
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i see you dont doing and dont anderstend the principe of device
I LIKE TO TO BE IN THE <@AGENTGATES  TO SUPORT THE ALL HIS ANDERSTENDING OF THE PERFECKT DEVICE
i see here most of here people dont andersten principe when or if you anderstend the you whill traed to make you copy of his devices
dont be angry of this words THIS IS THE BRAIN PROBLEM AND ALL TIME I SEE HERE <IS DONT EXSISIT THIS IS NOT REAL
NOW ASK ALL OF YOU NO <AGENTGATES > WAY YOU ARE HERE IN THIS FORUM<READ THE NAME OF THIS FORUM <OVERUNITY >  IF YOU DONT BEALEAVET THEN THIS FORUM IS NOT FOR YOU .... THEN TRAED TO FIND STANDAR FORUM WOR STANDARD DEVICES
I LIKE TO SEE PEOPLE TO SUPORT NOT TO PUT DOWN <I HAVE LONGTIME AGO POST OF <@MARCO  AND MARCO IS LIKE TO PUT PEOLE DOWN WAY
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YES ASK YOUR SELFS HERE  @HARTI  be more soft whit  maseges here
thanks.......................................................................................

ketone

so..um.....why are the intersecting points of the primary on that of the secondary, inducing the electrons to flow spontaneously ???