Recreating Besslers Wheel

[Ken the Great]

Now concerning the use of ALL kinetic energy available we in fact are ignoring the lost energy by the lever hitting its stop.

This is NOT acceptable. When we look at the orientation of the cable from one weight to the opposite weight we soon discover that the axle is directly in the way. So the energy from the cable has to change directions which is a loss. This is NOT acceptable.

So what we do is hook the cable from the pin on the weight to the opposite lever where the spring is connected, and the corresponding weight is then hooked to its opposite lever spring location. By doing this we do 2 things, we straighten the cable and lose nothing from a direction change, and we use ALL of the energy from the lever AND the weight.

One can adjust this easily by shortening and lengthening the cable to its optimum length. But it doesn't stop there. Because if we think, the lever can't shift the weight, the inertia isn't even close to being enough.

So what we do is interconnect both cables to act as one unit. There are several ways to do this. Tie a separate cable to the weight and the other end to the opposite cable before the axle, and add the same cable on the opposite side. And do the same from the point of attachment of the spring. Run a separate cable to the opposite cable and connect it prior to the axle. This would keep the transfer of energy in a straight line. As much as is possible.

Am I making too much sense?

Now there is no kinetic energy that has not been harnessed from the weights and the levers. All that is left is the low drum.

I will leave that for next time.

Whats the difference between Santa Claus and Tiger Woods?
Santa stops at 3 Ho's

[Ken the Great]

overtaker,

I must have missed that clue. Is that word for word?

[overtaker]

Ken,  This is from the Apologia Poetica:

"A great craftsman would be that man who can 'lightly' cause a heavy weight to fly upwards! Who can make a pound-weight rise as 4 ounces fall, or 4 pounds rise as 16 ounces fall. If he can sort that out, the motion will perpetuate itself. But if he can't, then his hard work shall be all in vain." - pg 295

Here is another translation:

From chapter 43 of AP:

He will be called a great craftsman,
who can easily throw a heavy thing high,
and when one pound falls a quarter,
it shoots four pounds four quarters high. &c.

I believe this is Stewart's translation but I'm not sure.

[Ken the Great]

overtaker,

That's a great clue. Now lets evaluate what is being said in the clue.
When a one pound weight falls a quarter a 4 pound weight rises 4 quarters.

Now most people I believe would assume these weights are interconnected.
But lets look closer, Is it possible that the one pound weight is what triggers the release of the spring?

I say yes. So the distance the 4 pound weight moves would be approximately the radius of the wheel, so the 1 pound weight would have to move 1/4 that distance to trigger the release of the 4 pound weight.

I see no way possible for a 1 pound weight to contain enough energy to move a 4 pound weight 4 times the distance of the one pound weight. Therefore my conclusion is the 4 pound weight must have potential energy stored in order to accomplish this. And the one pound weight is simply the trigger.

If the distance the 1 pound weight moved were increased to exceed the movement of the 4 pound weight, then and only then would enough energy be available to move the 4 pound weight as described.

A one pound weight that can only move 1 foot, will NEVER lift a 4 pound weight 4 feet, unless potential energy is stored somewhere in the system.

We can try to store potential energy in the one pound weight to transfer to the 4 pound weight, which would include a power loss, or store the potential energy directly in the 4 pound weight, with no power loss from the transfer.

Use the 1 pound weight to trigger the release of the potential energy, and the 4 pound weight will fly upwards.

Count Karl stated that the way the weights were prevented from taking their normal path on the ascending side was the key. When we combine this with Bessler stating that the low drum was the key. (paraphrasing of course) We can come to the conclusion that the low drum must contain the one pound weight that triggers the release.

If the one pound weight was actually lifting the 4 pound weight, then Besslers claim that the children on the columns could not lift the levers I don't believe would fit. Also Bessler himself said the high drum is what lifts the weights. I believe he was referring to the 8 larger weights.

Count Karl said a peg held the weight until its zenith, then rotated out of the way. I would have to say the one pound weight caused this rotation of the peg.

But I also do not believe that an exact duplicate of the device that shifts and holds the weights to the axle is needed to make a working wheel. In my opinion once you understand the placement of the levers, weights and cables, finding a solution to hold the weights and release them would be much easier.

Next segment will be the low drum, or rotating disc that bessler spoke of.

"If you think you can't, you surely won't be able to. If you think you can, the journey of success can begin."

[Ken the Great]

Now lets take a look at the low drum, or grindstone, or rotating disc. Besslers uses all three terms to describe this piece.

If the disc rotates on the axle, and the axle is spinning from the wheel rotating, then simple deduction would indicate the disc is not moving.

When we add in the friction of the bearings and the ascending weights applying pressure to the disc, at different intervals. We can come to the conclusion that the disc is not actually stationary, but in fact oscillates.

Raising slightly and then returning to its original position, and repeating this motion. Kind of like a dog wagging its tail.

If the device used to push the weights to the axle on the ascending side is stationary, the device WILL NOT WORK!

The oscillation is needed for more than one reason. One of which is a reduction in the force needed to shift the weight the further the wheel rotates.

For instance lets say our weight is 5 pounds. At the 6:00 position you must do 2 things, lift almost the entire 5 pounds AND overcome the 5 pound spring. the pivot point of the lever would be about 9:00.

As the disc rotates clockwise from the force of the mentioned above, the pivot point on the lever starts to become oriented directly above the weight. Now as this starts to occur, it takes less force to shift the weight. The more the disc rotates the less force is needed to shift the weight. until a point is reached where the only force needed is to overcome the spring.

Because of the floating factor of the disc, almost no energy is wasted.
The energy that is transferred to the disc, to rotate it, is returned to the weight once the disc returns to its position. If the disc were stationary there would be massive power loss. But gravity working on the disc returns the power to the weight, to shift it.

So in fact we are storing energy in the rotating disc until the lever is in the correct position with the pivot point above the weight, and not beside it.
Then the stored energy in the disc is more than the resistance left in the spring and weight combined, gravity transfers the energy back to the weight to shift it to the axle. AGAIN Harnessing ALL of the available power.

Again a stationary disc would cause a massive power loss.

Critical thinking , such a wonderful thing. 

Now we have over 90% of the design.

The only thing left is to create the low drum in such a way that it will shift the weights and release them at the correct time. One disc per 2 weights, then layer the drum for all 8 weights.

This is way too easy. Give me a harder problem. 

Well time to fix some breakfast.