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Overunity Machines Forum



Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Magluvin

Good Go Luc!

What freq was that? Have you tried longer duty cycles?

Glad to see you like. Im about to hook up my second one for the day. This one I ran very fine wire, like 35 - 40, like a hair, for the toroid winding. I used a plastic rod that I made notches in the ends to pre wrap the thin wire on and it allowed me to thread the ferrite bead many times easier than the way I was doing it. Were were bored as kids and we did a lil crochet.  lol  we did.
And my pickup is 20 ga of 16 turns. I dont care at the moment about how high the voltage is, im looking for some current.
My input should be pretty low. Im doing a vid after I try it.

Mags

Magluvin

Well my fellow Orbonians, Im beat. Wrapped 3 new coils and the first that I did yesterday is the winner thus far. I even did the OrboMcMuffin. There seems to be a happy medium with toroid windings. Or maybe I just need to have proper input. I can only imagine running the Orbonbon at 12v. That would be if the reeds could handle the load.
As I made conclusions, it got worse. I have no idea if containing the pickup within the toroid is better.  I would have to do 2 each way and see.
The clincher is, was I getting that big voltage from induced bemf from the toroid firing. All 3 coils I made tonight I expected way more, but got less as I tried harder. I got 16v from the OrboMcMuffin. So low. Well the first thing to do is, redo each with toroids over pickups and se if there is a difference. If their better this way, then there must be a magic magnet bemf thing going on, because if I Remove the magnets, my voltage is maybe 2v

Maybe there is a reaction withing the toroid that has an impelling effect on the pickup other than just switching flux path. May it is what Agentgates is seeing. It is a basic toroid with the pickup in or on.

I also want to try an air core with a toroid wrapping. Put it between 2 mags if it has this distorting effect on the pickup, then maybe the ferrite is in the way.  Dunno, Its 5:54 am and Im shleepy.  Visions of Orbonbons and Orboplumbs dance in my head.

Mags

So I got my mosfets out an my 556 so I can do a lil pwm.  Time to get out of the cave and into the trees. Ooo oo


mags

gotoluc

Quote from: Magluvin on January 23, 2010, 05:58:10 AM

So I got my mosfets out an my 556 so I can do a lil pwm.  Time to get out of the cave and into the trees. Ooo oo

mags

Hi Mags,

you will have more success using a PWM and MOSFET as switch. You will also see why I used a very short duty cycle. If you could get your hands on a scope, that would also help tremendously since without it is like working in the dark. You can pick them up used on eBay for $30. to $60. or a new USB 40MHz for $180. delivered.

Luc

lumen

Gee guys, I think were to late!
Check out this patent: US20090096219


gravityblock

Quote from: lumen on January 24, 2010, 10:31:14 PM
Gee guys, I think were to late!
Check out this patent: US20090096219

Pay careful attention to the FINEMET cores used for the toroidal coils mentioned in the patent.  I've been pushing FINEMET as the core material in the other thread over the last few days now.  Metglas may not be the right material.  Both FINEMET and Metglas needs to be tested and the results compared.

Here's an "Intro Finemet brochure" in a PDF file, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=362


GB
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