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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Omega_0

#400
March 05, 2010, 02:33:29 AM
Quote from: wings on March 04, 2010, 04:44:30 PM
Naudin have updated the circuit changing the resistance in series with the toroid from 10 kom down to 220 ohm.

the new calculation give output / input ratio down from 98 to 2.2 anyway more than 1.

I still think the output is not being calculated correctly.

I guess you can't compare the rectified output with un-rectified input. Both input and output must be rectified to get a meaningful value, or use pulse integration on both input and output side. If JLN is reading this, he will see my concern.

Now about lambda,
From the traces in Episode 6, we can see that the voltage of mag pulse is about -6V (for 300us) and that of demag pulse is 3.5V (for 500us), so the lambda per cycle is =  3.5^2*500 / 6^2*300 =  0.57
(Assuming both pulses are dumped in a load of value R, which cancels out anyway)
So, I have no idea why its coming 13.7 for rectified case.

He says there - "Shorter the clock pulse (low DTC) is, lower the energy spent for the magnetization process will be.", but he is using 85% DTC in Episode 7, which is too high for this statement to be true. I have no idea whats going on here, its all so confusing :)
I have more respect for the fellow with a single idea who gets there than for the fellow with a thousand ideas who does nothing - Thomas Alva Edison

Bruce_TPU

#401
March 05, 2010, 08:05:14 AM
Quote from: exnihiloest on March 05, 2010, 04:50:36 AM
Right. I already said almost the same. Naudin is measuring peak voltages instead of rms voltages. This gives completely false results.

It looked to me like his Output, BOTH of them is DC, nearly straightline.  So how can you say he is measuring peak voltages, giving false results?

1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Groundloop

#402
March 05, 2010, 12:19:02 PM
@exnihiloest,

This thread is about people working on solid state Orbo like systems
and NOT about JNL measurements. If you want a lengthy discussion
about measurements errors etc. then please do it somewhere else.

Groundloop.

Rapadura

#403
March 05, 2010, 12:41:33 PM
Overunity only exists when the output power can charge a larger battery than the input battery, with a larger amount of joules than in the input battery.

No need for complicated calculations.

Groundloop

#404
March 05, 2010, 12:49:42 PM
@Rapadura,

I agree. The other way is to loop the output back to the input.
If the circuit is over unity then the input battery will charge.

G.
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