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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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wings

Quote from: wings on April 01, 2010, 04:26:59 PM
.....Solid State Orbo gains energy via control of a material's inductance and domain rotation. As with all previous implementations of Orbo, these material permeability effects are fundamental to the production of an energy gain. .......

3 coils 1 toroid  ???    1 shaft or 2 magnets?
1st April 2010?

shaft only for winding operation.

here under test?

teslaalset

Quote from: gravityblock on April 01, 2010, 11:05:09 PM
This document from Steorn, http://www.steorn.com/images/asymmetry-and-energy-in-magnetic-systems.pdf , sets out to demonstrate that such asymmetry in itself does not lead to unexpected energy results, but that a combination of asymmetry and non-linear MH relationships does indeed lead to unexpected energy results.
GB

GB, these are interesting findings.
However, I can't see any H-fields in the 4 experiments they show, while they mention non-linear M-H curves as key in these experiments.
Any thoughts on this?

gravityblock

Quote from: teslaalset on April 02, 2010, 01:45:36 PM
GB, these are interesting findings.
However, I can't see any H-fields in the 4 experiments they show, while they mention non-linear M-H curves as key in these experiments.
Any thoughts on this?

The experimental results shown in the publication of "asymmetry and energy in magnetics" are produced by the Magnetic Torque Measurement System, details of which may be found in the document “Magnetic Torque Measurement System”, http://www.steorn.com/images/magnetic-torque-measurement-system.pdf

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

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teslaalset

Quote from: gravityblock on April 02, 2010, 02:48:16 PM
The experimental results shown in the publication of "asymmetry and energy in magnetics" are produced by the Magnetic Torque Measurement System, details of which may be found in the document “Magnetic Torque Measurement System”, http://www.steorn.com/images/magnetic-torque-measurement-system.pdf

GB

Sorry GB, I don't see the connection with their measurment device/methods.
The symmetry/assymmetry description mentions M-H curves as part of the physical behaviour to use less or more or no extra energy to rotate (to be measured by any method).
It still doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe I am overlooking something.

gravityblock

Quote from: teslaalset on April 02, 2010, 03:36:57 PM
Sorry GB, I don't see the connection with their measurment device/methods.
The symmetry/assymmetry description mentions M-H curves as part of the physical behaviour to use less or more or no extra energy to rotate (to be measured by any method).
It still doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe I am overlooking something.

I have a thread on this Magnetic Torque Measurement system, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8763.0

We can discuss it there, if you like.  Reply #15 of that thread, offers an alternative testing method based on the spin down time.  This alternative testing method should work for the PM Orbo, but the magnetic torque measurement system is needed for the eOrbo.  In the ssOrbo, the magnetic torque measurement system is not needed.

The anomaly in the PM Orbo, is rotation in one direction lead to a loss of the system's kinetic energy; rotation in the opposite direction lead to a gain in the system's kinetic energy.  This is due to a combination of an asymmetry system with non-linear MH relationships, which I believe the ssOrbo is also based on.  Hopefully, the spin down tests will make more since to you, than the magnetic torque measurement system.  The tests will show, if there isn't a non-linear MH relationship in an asymmetry system, then there will be no gain.  There is also a thread for the PM Orbo, which I hope will be discussed, since the eOrbo and ssOrbo is based on the anomaly of the PM Orbo, http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8991.0

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.