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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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poynt99

Steorn would never agree to this, but I would buy their kit/membership and sign the NDA with the added terms:

1) If the measurements are properly obtained and they match their claims (assuming they are claiming OU), I then continue to abide by the NDA,

2) If the measurements clearly indicate COP<1 and they can not point to the flaw in my measurements, then my NDA with them is null and void.

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wings

Quote from: lumen on October 09, 2010, 11:00:54 AM
Speaking of the principal behind the Steorn OU claim, does anyone even know exactly how it works?
I was doing some testing on toroidal coils, and they have very high inductance. If they are cut in half the inductance drops severely and is not even close to the same inductance as a full toroid even with twice the windings.

So saturating a small area of the core achieves the same drop in inductance as cutting the core.
The energy required to saturate a small area of the core to reduce the inductance of the entire core may be far less than the energy returned if a small current was applied to the windings just before releasing the small saturated area.
The increased total inductance would return far more than the initial spot saturation energy and the initial full core winding pumping.

The spot saturation could be supplied from another winding or a small moving neodymium magnet.
I'm totally not sure if this is Steorn's concept, it's the only thing I can see working at this point.

Anyone have other ideas?

interesting.

you are continuing the experiment of this forum Self running coil?  :
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892.msg235321#msg235321

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BehANEVUo


lumen

Quote from: wings on October 09, 2010, 03:46:41 PM
interesting.

you are continuing the experiment of this forum Self running coil?  :
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8892.msg235321#msg235321

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8BehANEVUo

I agree! Thank you for pointing out that thread.
I just watched the video, and my description does match the results in the video. The only thing that is missing in the video is why there is an increase in output. I believe what they may be missing is that the magnets jump away from the coil slightly when the current is applied to the coil and the attraction is reduced. This micro movement allows the coil to collapse with greater inductance and return more energy. After the collapse, the magnets pull tighter to the core once again, reducing the inductance for the next cycle.




exnihiloest

Quote from: void109 on October 07, 2010, 02:28:15 PM
I'll just say this, knowing I will not purchase an SDK, or developer license from them.  If they can produce OU, it will be from the discovery (and exploitation) of a new physical law of our universe.  They didnt create the law.  The universe did.  That law does not belong to them.  And the mere understanding of this law will allow many different methods of extracting useful power.  All hypothetical.

If I had access to this kit.  And I was able to verify that it does indeed result in more power out than in, the first thing I would do is plaster the details of the principle all over the web, as long and as often as I could, until someone stopped me.

Such a discovery is so important to HUMANITY (read: screw your bank account), to not divulge everything immediately is sick and twisted.
...

Hi void109, 

I agree 100%. I'd do the same thing (if Steorn had really something, but I think they sell wind).



wings

Quote from: lumen on October 09, 2010, 06:37:11 PM
I agree! Thank you for pointing out that thread.
I just watched the video, and my description does match the results in the video. The only thing that is missing in the video is why there is an increase in output. I believe what they may be missing is that the magnets jump away from the coil slightly when the current is applied to the coil and the attraction is reduced. This micro movement allows the coil to collapse with greater inductance and return more energy. After the collapse, the magnets pull tighter to the core once again, reducing the inductance for the next cycle.
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