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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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Bruce_TPU

#230
February 07, 2010, 04:12:36 PM
Quote from: Jimboot on February 07, 2010, 02:23:15 AM
@bruce_TPU I wound my original Orbo toroids with 0.5mm 24bs. http://jaycar.com.au/productResults.asp?FORM=KEYWORD Tried posting a pic but it was unreadable. Also I used Ossie's method of winding on 3 strands at a time to a shuttle device. I simply used a hard flexible piece of plastic with a V cut in each end to first wind the wire onto then did about 3 layers (ferrite cores) & wired them in series. I used EXACTLY the same toroids as Ossie. http://jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=LO1234&CATID=33&form=CAT&SUBCATID=882

Hi Jimboot,

So your .5mm is indeed about 24 awg.  How many turns total, or if you don't know that, what was the total length? (of all wires in series total)  Thanks!!

I will know shortly if my newly wrapped magamp works, and if not, I am ordering Ossies and your core from Jaycar.  I just need to know about how much wire, or turns.

Quote from: Magluvin on February 07, 2010, 03:06:38 PM
Hey Bruce
In earlier posts, I reported that the coil interaction alone, without mags, were pretty low. With just the inner bead, not inside the outer bead, the voltage on the secondary was like 2v, and when inside the outer beads, it was up to 3v but not much current. So the magnets fields I believe are doing as I figured, switching beads as the inner bead is doing a disappearing and reappearing act. =]

mags

Hi Mags,

I certainly believe you, it simply would appear from looking at your toroid, and know the hell I have had getting any of mine to properly saturate that you have so few turns.  You might consider rewinding another, with a shorted layer as per LarryC.  Then your pick up coil, and then a lot of turns.  And then try JLN Labs test to make sure a magnet wont stick to the outside when it is switched on.  I just think that it will help your results mightily!   ;)

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Magluvin

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February 07, 2010, 06:03:53 PM
Hey Bruce
Wouldnt the shorted coil absorb some of the field that Im trying to get my pickup to absorb?
Maybe I misunderstand what the shorted coil is for. If you think it will enhance the pickup, I will try it.
At this time with the cores that I have, I am limited to space on the inner bead for more windings than are there now. Each of the beads in the pic you have noted have the same wire size for the pickup and the toroid. The one on the left is maxed out for size. Do you think if I used smaller wire for the pickup, that I would still get good current output? I have wound quite a few to get to this point.  =]

Mags

Magluvin

#232
February 07, 2010, 06:05:43 PM
Syncro
Have you seen Tinselkoala's YT vid on the Orbette where he applies biasing magnets to the toroids to get the rotor to go faster?

Mags

Magluvin

#233
February 07, 2010, 11:47:07 PM
Bruce

Also I am running 5v to the toroid coil, which makes a difference from 1.5v.  Maybe the Orbo could do better with higher volts also.   =]

Mags

synchro1

#234
February 08, 2010, 12:39:56 PM
Magluvin.

Thank you for referring me to Tinselkoala's latest Biased Magnets Orbette Video number 51. Looks like TK has really outdone himself in this one. His results are truly astonishing! RPMs increase about 50% while input power drops. Excellent proof of concept demo for that idea.

Bruce,

What kind of material do you plan to use to cast your stator in? Wax or green sand?
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