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Solid State Orbo System

Started by Groundloop, January 06, 2010, 12:21:24 PM

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gyulasun

Quote from: Bruce_TPU on March 09, 2010, 09:01:29 PM
Hi Gyula,

Okay, battery is recharged, and found out that I had also blown all of my 4 large LED's.

Replaced them with a different LED.

Any who, with no load, I ran the following test:

SSG3 Ohms reading: 
50.3 Ohms
No Load Voltage:
30.2 volts
50.4 resistor added in parallel
New ohms reading is 25.3 ohms for SSG3
No Load Voltage
1.8 volts

Hi Bruce,

With your above data, and still using 500Hz output frequency, the needed series capacitance is 379 nF  (rounded value). The best would be to use a capacitance box but with the combinations of some standard values like 33  100   150  220 nF caps you can approach it. (for instance you parallel a 150 nF with two 100 nF and a 33nF you get 383 nF already.  If you could change the 500 Hz frequency a little, you could also nicely trim this series RLC circuit to its resonant frequency.  So remember: the 379 nF capacitor should be in SERIES with your coils output, then comes the 50.4 Ohm resistor load.

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On a side note, I am lighting 4 led's in series, 25ma 3.6V (max) and also in series with them is one 28V 40ma bulb.  LED's fully lit, a glow on the bulb, and 15 volts on volt meter.

If you have an oscilloscope, it would be good to see the output waveform, without the series 379 nF capacitor. Because keep in mind: the LEDs perform a half wave rectification this means two things: they give light only whenever the AC output is higher than their forward voltage (4*3.6V=14.4V) and the bulb also lights only whenever the LEDs can conduct in their forward biased state. SO there is no any load across your output for every second  half wave time length,  and in the other half wave times when LEDS could already conduct there is still no load current till the AC output exceeds 14.4V peak voltage, to defeat their series forward voltage drop.
This may show how decisive can it be to use LEDs as a load if you are not considering their diode behavior and their open voltage characteristics.

If you omit the LEDs and use only ,say, the 28V, 40mA bulb it changes the loading effect considerable because current will be able to flow in any moment of the AC waveform (except zero crossings, if there is such in the waveform).  Needless to say, the true output power also changes drastically vs the LED+bulb loading case.

rgds,  Gyula

PS: if you already have received the L meter, I would like to learn what you measured at (the unpowered) coils output.  Also I am curious to know the L value of one separate Brook coil of yours.

lumen

Quote from: exnihiloest on March 10, 2010, 04:49:09 AM
We all want this. Unfortunately it is not possible.
The flux from the permanent magnet pass through each side of the 2Sgen toroid core. We have half the flux in each side.
But the circular flux from the pulsed coil, adds to the flux from the magnet in one side of the core, and subtracts in the other side. It saturates a side more than the other.
It follows that the permeability of the toroid is no more balanced. The extra flux in the side of higher permeability cannot loop through the side of lower permeability, thus it expands and loops around the toroid.
It is easily detected with a small probe coil.

Why would you not want the flux leaving the core?
The only thing that makes this work is the flux leaving the core. If the flux was contained totally within the core, how will any current be induced in the pickup coil?


Bruce_TPU

Quote from: gyulasun on March 10, 2010, 09:51:28 AM
Hi Bruce,

With your above data, and still using 500Hz output frequency, the needed series capacitance is 379 nF  (rounded value). The best would be to use a capacitance box but with the combinations of some standard values like 33  100   150  220 nF caps you can approach it. (for instance you parallel a 150 nF with two 100 nF and a 33nF you get 383 nF already.  If you could change the 500 Hz frequency a little, you could also nicely trim this series RLC circuit to its resonant frequency.  So remember: the 379 nF capacitor should be in SERIES with your coils output, then comes the 50.4 Ohm resistor load.

If you have an oscilloscope, it would be good to see the output waveform, without the series 379 nF capacitor. Because keep in mind: the LEDs perform a half wave rectification this means two things: they give light only whenever the AC output is higher than their forward voltage (4*3.6V=14.4V) and the bulb also lights only whenever the LEDs can conduct in their forward biased state. SO there is no any load across your output for every second  half wave time length,  and in the other half wave times when LEDS could already conduct there is still no load current till the AC output exceeds 14.4V peak voltage, to defeat their series forward voltage drop.
This may show how decisive can it be to use LEDs as a load if you are not considering their diode behavior and their open voltage characteristics.

If you omit the LEDs and use only ,say, the 28V, 40mA bulb it changes the loading effect considerable because current will be able to flow in any moment of the AC waveform (except zero crossings, if there is such in the waveform).  Needless to say, the true output power also changes drastically vs the LED+bulb loading case.

rgds,  Gyula

PS: if you already have received the L meter, I would like to learn what you measured at (the unpowered) coils output.  Also I am curious to know the L value of one separate Brook coil of yours.

Hi Gyula,

Thank you once again.  I will try the aforementioned caps in series with the resistor, as I will order them this evening and redo that experiment.

The L Meter has not yet arrived, but I will let you know, as soon as it does.

I also want to double check the frequency of the output.

@ ALL,

I did a little experimenting this morning.  I unhooked the bias that is wired in series around each of my brooks coils, and tried running the SSG3.  Input power went way up, and Output power went way down.

This simple experiment, gave me a GREAT idea, to capture more of the curled A and B of the large toroid leaning against the large magnet.

I said earlier that a B field could act as an entrainment (forcefield) and contain the flux. 

I am going to wrap a bias around a tube, trying both air core and steel core, and use that as my B field bias on that toroid and magnet.  IF that works in increasing output, and I am almost sure that it will, I will add two more additional bias' as b fields to the same toroid.  Hard to describe, I will draw it up later.  A picture is worth a thousand words...LOL

So..tonight, I will work some on my new circuit that will drop my input power, and also work on my newest bias winding. 

I am VERY excited about this idea, because I think it will work and would increase output dramatically and decrease input...   ;)  There is only one way to know and that is to do it!

Cheers,

Bruce
http://www.energyfreedomreport.com
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

synchro1

Quote from: exnihiloest on March 10, 2010, 04:23:23 AM
Your reply is the proof that you, not me, is bothered with cooling. You spoke the first, not me, about cooling in this thread.
For me there is no cooling so I'm not bothered!
If I detect one in the future, I will inform you.  ;)
End of Quote!

New addition:
Here's a partial quote from the introduction to Zaev's (Capacitance converter of environmental heat to electric power) publication. ¨Such converters of energy create COLD and electric power without any fuel¨.

synchro1

I just emailed Jean Louis Naudin and asked him if he would be kind enough to make some caloric measurements on his 2SGen Toroid for our SSOrbo experimenters group here at Overunity. This is a critical standard.