Joule Thief Dream Coil

[Foggy-Notion]

Ok noisey Relay opens and shuts, but does so fast
and repeatedly, like the transistor? or fast enough to
allow DC to jump on the Transformer band wagon?

(I keep bringing up DC because I have a sorce of DC)
It is very high amp but only 1/2 volt, I'm told capacitor
spark gap may be my best bet for pulsing it in prep for
transfomrer.  (Source is a Faraday Disc)

But that's a nother project. Also with Direct Current
I pictured a river running in a large circle with no falls, ha.

Or a river running to the ocean, but somehow the water
returns to the place of orgin, year after year, as it does.
Or, sort of a very slow alternating between two batteries,
or a much faster similar using a Tesla switch, Recycled DC.


As for Current it self, and my obsession with it.
Well, I'm from thinking Voltage x Amps = Watts.
And for me, an easy way to semi-calculate power,
is to invision how many 100 watt bulbs I can light up.

Or transforming it all back to 120 volts at ? amps,
gives me an idea of how much power I'm looking at
or what I can do with it in every day use.

As I learn more I should shed those old habbits I guess.
However I am aware of the power of HV in miliamps too.

I have read that electromagnets made of 36 to 39 awg tripple coat wire
encased in resin (for durability) using only 600 volts of miliamp power
created a repelling force of such violence when two opposed each other
with North poles, that a poweful electric motor could be made from them.

These do not need a continuous 600v 400mA, like a fluorescent light might,
but only a quick zap of 600v 400mA, triggered by a reed?, once per revolution.

From what I am reading here, I can acheive this with a AA battery?
Sweet Mother of Nikola

[Pirate88179]

Ok noisey Relay opens and shuts, but does so fast
and repeatedly, like the transistor? or fast enough to
allow DC to jump on the Transformer band wagon?

A relay only opens and closes when the electricity is turned on and turned off.  Something or someone has to do this.  Transistors will operate at much higher frequencies than a mechanical device like a relay ever could.  One of my Bedini motors goes well over 16,000 rpm, try doing that with reed switches and a relay.  Other folks have them turning over 300,000 rpm...very fast. 

Some transistors also operate on very low input levels like .2 volts or so. (Germanium)  This is very important in some of the circuits folks are working with.  All of the relays I know about take much more just to operate at all.

Jeanna has given you some good advice here, especially about the Walter Lewin lecture series.

Bill

[jeanna]

From what I am reading here, I can acheive this with a AA battery?
Sweet Mother of Nikola

I think so.
I like that name.

I think your description of the lake where the waves return is ac or what I mean by it.

Is your source of dc a waterfall?
If it is, then you need not bother with all this unless there is an unexpected earth upheaval.

Where is this interesting example that you describe?
I would like to read more about that electromagnet, unless it is standard hi amp electromagnet, because this is just the old plan.

jeanna

[jeanna]

This is a video from lidmotor where he uses a joule thief primary to make a bedini type charger.
There are many elements to this one, but it is all presented in lidmotor's clear style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn8Thvyr2zI

jeanna

[Foggy-Notion]

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Thank you Bill
Wow, 300,000 rpm?  Does it levitate?  Imagine if it were a
copper disc, if I could get my Faraday disc to even 16k RPM.
Germanium/ Lewin, ...will look.



Jeanna

I read about the HV electromagnets in something my neighbor
got from Creative Science.


This one is much higher volatage (5000) but at only 1-4 amps
http://www.fuellesspower.com/high_voltage_electromagnets2.htm

Either I remember wrong, or their original plans were flawed.
Either way, where there's a will, there's a way.


Bigger Joule Thief on a 12 volt battery, could acheive 5kv @ 1A
I have faith in you.



Update
It is a PDF file from Creative Science, claiming it is #27 wire
using between 300 to 1000 volts, in the miliamps.


This is like five years old, if the info is wrong a refund for
neighbor is in order, though he too violated trust by sharing
the "top secret" plans with me.

Quote:
"How it works, the fueless engine uses high voltage AC @ 60 khz
300 to 1000 volts, in the miliamps, the VH is then converted to
DC through a series of diodes which are rated at twice the input
voltage then the HV DC is directed to a HV capacitor Bank"

From there I guess it is sent in spurts to the electromagnets
which repell each other according to the illustration.


He claims he was skeptical at first, but held down the magnet on
top of the other in case it did work, so his electromagnet would not
fly off and get damaged.  He says when the + wire was connected
to the 12 v battery, the magnet's repulsion nearly broke his arm.