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Overunity Machines Forum



array of magnets + energy accumulation + skip the last magnet = it works

Started by shimondoodkin, February 03, 2010, 07:27:28 PM

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Rapadura

Quote from: happyfunball on March 03, 2010, 12:30:22 AM
Perhaps the 1001st try will work. Or not...

I think very few people did experiments with V Gate in a flywheel. And nobody has tried seriously the idea of the cam.


mscoffman


@harrison73

Sir; Inertial Momentum is insufficient in itself to solve the overunity
problem. If a rotor can make one cogging-free rotation then all that
is needed is "energy gain" around the entire rotational loop to make
it run forever. Without "energy gain" then no matter how much rotational
mass the rotor has it will always run down and stop via cogging. So
rotational mass needs to be suffcient at some RPM to overcome
cogging.

@happyfunball

"Gate" is what it has become known as in the permanent magnet motor
field.

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Also; as the rotor RPM goes up. The inductance of a coil will need to be
overcome by applying additional electrical energy to get it to pulse fast.
Also the repetition rate itself will require the coil current to rise...So
there is no free electrical lunch.

I don't like electronic actuation (unless it works :D) as there may be
some relationship between the amount of magnetic work you can get
from the generator and the amount you can produce from the magnetic
motor. I'm not saying I know what the relationship is...but it would
probably defeat device operation.

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@All

Ok...we have overcome weight of the top piece as being a problem.
and we have overcome friction as being a problem. ;) The last one
is a problem of inertial momentum of the top piece. This could
be overcome by making the cam actuation very long and shallow...
Then, it does kind of remind you of the Yu pendulum as a wheel
doesn't it.

:S:MarkSCoffman


happyfunball

Quote from: mscoffman on March 03, 2010, 10:27:55 AM

@happyfunball

"Gate" is what it has become known as in the permanent magnet motor
field.


:S:MarkSCoffman

I'm aware of the meaning of 'gate.' I think you meant to say the magnetic field juncture, ie: the end/ beginning of the SMOT array. In my opinion, a more accurate description would be 'wall' due to the fact that the 'gate' has never been overcome and makes it sound a little too doable to would-be experimenters...

happyfunball

Quote from: Rapadura on March 03, 2010, 10:21:35 AM
I think very few people did experiments with V Gate in a flywheel. And nobody has tried seriously the idea of the cam.

Rickoff certainly took it seriously. I think the rest are aware of the fact that a cam requires energy input which can't be extracted from a spinning SMOT array. But by all means give it a shot.

Btw, Roney w/ his 'runway plates' is apparently still at it according to a message I received from him.