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Overunity Machines Forum



Theoretical efficiency of electrolysis

Started by Farlander, February 21, 2010, 12:09:41 AM

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Low-Q

Quote from: stevie1001 on May 13, 2010, 04:20:20 PM
Sorry for this possible rude awakening, but your story is based on what Peter Lindemann is saying on youtube.
However, Peter came back on that one.
He couldn't replicate his own words.
So, that theory is blown to pieces.
No massive volts to amps......

Steve
That is correct. I was watching his presentation recently, and it all did sound good, but I now know it is possible to produce HHO with regular clean water with relatively low voltage. My recent test is done with  range of 10 - 40V and all produce hydrogen and oxygen.

Vidar

billmehess

Quote from: Low-Q on May 14, 2010, 10:04:10 AM
That is correct. I was watching his presentation recently, and it all did sound good, but I now know it is possible to produce HHO with regular clean water with relatively low voltage. My recent test is done with  range of 10 - 40V and all produce hydrogen and oxygen.

Vidar
I am curious what is the least amount of voltage and amps necessary to produce hydrogen and oxygen.

gyulasun


gauschor

Hmmm.... do you think it would be possible to do electrolysis with a wimshurst? There was once a rumour that electrolysis works best with high voltage, low amperage and pulsed DC... so that would all be produced by such a device. Well, never tried it out though...

mscoffman

Quote from: gauschor on May 15, 2010, 07:21:03 AM
Hmmm.... do you think it would be possible to do electrolysis with a wimshurst? There was once a rumour that electrolysis works best with high voltage, low amperage and pulsed DC... so that would all be produced by such a device. Well, never tried it out though...

@gauschor;

There is link to a video showing a Meyer's set-up.
Be prepared to stop the video at 1:03 (of 2:52)
ignore the audio, and just look at the diagram;

http://pesn.com/2010/05/14/9501652_Water-for-Fuel_tech_among_Pepsi_Refresh_contestants/

Comment: Yes, I think you are correct, please refer to the diagram
at time 1:04 in the above video. Ok, you have a standard
(3-phase rectified) Automotive Alternator (without battery charge
regulator). When the belt drive motor spins the rotor this it enables
the primary DC power 400-1600watts to the electrolyser. This supplies
the bulk of the primary power. Next you notice that he modulates the
field coil (rotor in this case) of the alternator with a pulse generator.
This converts the alternator into sort of a magnetic amplifier that
modulates the DC power with pulses. This is the phonon injector.
But here comes the unique part. The belt drive from the motor to
the alternator functions as a high voltage static electric generator
injector like a Van De Graf generator and High Voltage flows (leaks)
from the alternator across the link into the electrolyser. This high
voltage aligns the cavitation bubble collapse in the electrolyser. So
you get some overunity because of the static electric power itself
but much more when you use the high voltage to augment CF cold
fusion in the electrolyser through alignment of the cavitation
bubbles...So there you have it...You can do all these circuit things
in different ways, but unless you have all three in one circuit you
won't get the good stuff.

Conclusions:
Stan Meyer himself may have not been aware what was actually
occurring. It appears that the dune buggy has nothing to do with
the much vaunted electrolyser resonance.

:S:MarkSCoffman