Pulsed DC Transformer with Embedded Magnets

[XS-NRG]

Who told you they are not OU?

Nobody,
My tests showed me that and more.
So who told you?
You can see for yourself if you want.

[Omnibus]

Nobody,
My tests showed me that and more.
So who told you?
You can see for yourself if you want.

Show the tests that showed you these devices are not OU. You have none, right? Right.

[vonwolf]

By the way, while the SMOT and the magnetic propulsor are the only devices so far which have definitively been proven to be OU devices the Joule Thief and devices similar to it are not as far as the current evidence presented indicates. A possible OU circuit is the RC circuit I studied last summer which I will continue to explore. As I've shown, it is an OU circuit due to internal asymmetries inherent in the theory of electricity itself. So, one desn't even need to do experiments to find out the theoretical basis of such circuits being OU. Another proven OU system is electrolysis of water in an undivided cell. No other devices, other than the listed so far (except for the Steorn motor) have any inkling of being OU systems.

This thread, however, is about electrical devices and more specifically Lawrence's device. Unfortunately, it too hasn't been shown to be an OU device.

Omnibus
  I'm not familiar with the OU devices you are referring to, if they look promising that's great I wish you good luck. I would not be too specific on them here or next thing you'll see is Ol LT will slap his "Lead out or Bring in" energy theory on it and this whole thing goes round and round, please the man needs no more fuel for his delusions.

  Pete

[Omnibus]

Omnibus
  I'm not familiar with the OU devices you are referring to, if they look promising that's great I wish you good luck. I would not be too specific on them here or next thing you'll see is Ol LT will slap his "Lead out or Bring in" energy theory on it and this whole thing goes round and round, please the man needs no more fuel for his delusions.

  Pete

I agree with you this is not the thread to discuss legitimate OU claims. I, in fact, have opened a thread the other day to discuss one of the legitimate such calims: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10177.0 . Here's another viable OU system that I have already analyzed earlier which was mentioned recently: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10034.msg269592#msg269592 .

On the other hand, I should say, I stay open minded even with regards to claims such a that offered by Lawrence until legitimate data either way is presented. At this point we have what -- unsustained claims by Lawrence, based on flawed experiments on the one hand and, and on the other rebuttal of the flawed experiments by self-appointed ctitics without showing their conclusive expreriments based on correct procedures. Both parties are at fault here and based of my experience that there are instance of OU in electrical systems, the discussion in this thread does not seem to have a satisfactory conclusion yet either way.

[ltseung888]

No, you don't need to quote peak to peak voltages any further. It is absolutely not true that peak to pak voltages can give an idea for the power balance. At any "order of comparison". Just drop it. As for the integrating of the instantaneous power input and output power values over time you don't need two oscilloscopes but only one four-channel scope with proper bandwidth and accuracy. That isn't enough, however. For correct measurements you need proper probes and they are not cheap. They cost more than the scope itself. So, until you obtain data at this level of sophistication of your measurements you need not overwhelm the forum with posting and claims you cannot sustain.

You seem to be the only one realizing the expenses needed to do the experiments correctly.  Now we have at least two top universities willing to take on the task of verification.  They have the necessary equipment and expertise.

For my part, I use this forum as a diary and care very little on what the naysayers and insulters post.  If you do not like what I post, ignore them or mock at them.

When I (or any one else) do not have the expensive equipment, we can still show the results to the best capability of our equipment.  Some laughed at my bedroom laboratory in Hong Kong.  But in the end, who cares?

God helps those who help themselves.  The poor can still do experiments and display their results.  Amen.