LaFonte Group can turn off permanent magnet without work

[wattsup]

Regarding your last video (LoadTest2.mov ) the fact that the magnets are so close to the shaft or inside the shaft itself gives this idea great potential simply because of minimal counter leverage under drag. The further the magnet would be from the shaft, the greater leverage you would have to counter under a drag condition. Now, with the magnet in the shaft, the drag would have to be soooo strong to stop the motor. So that is a very good idea.

About the amperage drop, I would have to say that the drop was really minimal compared to the 7 amps draw. Those DC motors are amp hogs to start with.

i did not see your coils in the video If you have one or more output coils, I recommend you find the positive output lead of each and put a diode on each coil, then put them all in parallel. But do not put them all in parallel, then on only one diode. You need to make sure each coil is not influenced by the others.

Bruce, I had the same idea to embed magnets in an alternator rotor on each one of the pie extensions that carry the north and south fields coming from the center rotor field coil. Also to modify the stator coils by cutting out the bridge rectifier and bringing out each stator coil individually, then dioding each one before they are paralleled.

Very good work and always good to see and learn from your videos. Thanks.

[Paul-R]

I fully understand that this type of setup could never be looked at as a motor. (Who in looking at this could even think that way?)

Nobody.

We all see it as PART of a motor. Take the Yasunori Takahashi spiral motor, for instance. The first magents do a good job repelling and thereby give the shaft torque. But when the rotor comes round again, these first magnets need to be switched off to let the rotor fly past, and then switched on again to let them repel.

Applied to the correct design for the Adams motor (viz Patrick's Chapter 2), the result stands to be even more amazing. As the rotor magent is attracted to the stator core, work is made available; then instead of neutralising the stator core as the rotor magnet cruises past, it may instead be"switched off" with butch's device. (The Adams motor will need a bit of a re-design).

[wattsup]

The main hold-back will be that of available RPM.

Let's say the shaft was 1.5 inches diameter. That would give a radius of .75 inches. At 3600 RPM, compare the speed of travel on the surface of the shaft, to the speed of a standard rotor of 4 inches, or 6 inches, or 8 inches. The larger the diameter of the turning rotor, the more speed you will have at the edge where the magnet is at the same working RPM.

But if there is any drag, it will be multiplied proportionally to the wider diameter rotor. So there is a very good give with this idea, but the take will be with the RPM. There is no other variable but RPM. Well there is another variable to play with. Shaft length. You would need a shaft loaded with magnets and I would say a good 1-2 feet long given at 3600 rpm the speed of the magnet on the outer coils will be relatively slow.

[mscoffman]

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Butch, I am not trying to take anything away from your application, but
I have (Yesterday) learned that this is actually common knowledge in
the field of gauge clamps and even more in magnetic hold-down tables.
(If you can believe it, I told this to a manufacturer of the tables and he
quickly modified one to allow full rotation of the "Switch" handle.  It was
easy for him, as he makes them.  Just throwing ANYTHING on the table
makes no difference to the force required to turn the handle, but just
putting a coil on it with a open core touching on both sides does put
out a lot more current than I thought possible.  He was amazed too.)
...

Excellent input Loner.

Oh...so he's just getting around to trying this now huh?...Oh my electric bill.
What's taking Butch so long to test this.

:S:MarkSCoffman

[4Tesla]

We attempted to create a torque on the rotor to simulate a lenz reaction or so called motor action. We did this by using an external DC power supply to run large amp rates through the coils in an attempt to get the generator to operate as a motor. The rotor was unaffected by the coils magnetic field and could be rotated with ease and with no cogging. It was so interesting to see the device unable to be operated as a motor, but when the rotor was rotated it operates as a generator. I defy you to find a generator that you can run current through the coils and not get a reaction to the coils magnetic field by the rotor. The air gap in this design remains constant and there is no torque effect on the rotor, but the rotation of the rotor causes a complete reversal of the magnetic field every rotation. Run current through this generator's coils and try to run it like a motor and you will get nothing, but run it light a generator by turning the rotor and you will get electrocuted.
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte

Hi Butch,

So this is a very efficient generator, that is so efficient that it may be able to achieve OU by using a small motor to run it?  Do you have a self runner?

4Tesla