Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[DomiChi]

Well said, I think Sterling is riding a slippery rail, if he falls off one side he just ends up ruining his reputation, if he falls of the other side he might be convicted of fraud.

If I was him I would get off that rail. Choose a side. Truth and valid reporting, or leading people on, hyping them up and getting donations with no follow through ect. ect..

It's kinda sad but if all the dodgy and plain false claims were given no credence there would be no problem. There is a lot of dodgy stuff on these sites, and there seems to be more and more people to believe it.

On these sites I see very little collaboration, development and testing. Mostly hunting for claims on the you tube so they can be linked for hype. Then pages of argument.
Did Yildiz run his machine for hours while powering some decent load, like more than 10 watts. Seems it would be a very expensive fan.

Cheers

You are right for most that you say. But you have to dissociate Stirling and Yildiz. I had exchange with J.Duarte (dutch professor) at Geneva, that was interesting, he began to imagine how to find physics explanation about this engine. He regrets that he could not continue to work on this enngine, but it was not a Yildiz problem. It was Nederland visa problem.
I agree that this thread is not the TOP, but there is hopefully other better thread on this forum.
Even penno64 which open this thread never come back. He opened it here and not in http://www.overunity.com/skeptical-views-and-scam-alerts/
For me, for serious exchange I prefer other forum, and principally in French, my mother language. On this forum, there is no moderator how could recall the objectives and redirect posts in their place. On this other French forum, after giving some explaination about magnetic viscosity, they are now taking it into account and they now explain things that was wrong from FEMM before.
They also are trying to find better simulation software. The problem is that other softwares are expensive or like Elmer require some more mathematicals knowledge.
But on all forums you have scam hunter which polute. They learn from the past, but they also learn wrong thing from the past. And they think that it is right. Like energy conservation law that has to be completed with all known energies.  That will be a problem, as black energy is infinit (75% of univers, but with low density).

As I am also interest with Healing with vital energy, I just comeback from one of these blogs. Day and night. All posts finish with something like "Love". We are far from this here. It is exactly the contrary. OU will never born here. We are making our live with our brain, there is no hazard, here is not live that I want. When I spoke of black energy, I think zero point energy, but here it is real black, negative energy, FLEE.
I do not need this black negative energy even if free. And even if I can protect myself from this negative energy (thank you Mickael archangel)
I know that the pugs will try to attack me on this point. It will be in vain because I will not discuss here something pure. And they will not follow me on vital energy blogs, they are to affraid to be put infront of them self there.

[profitis]

lol@de truchos.i see you still didnt do the incredibly simple experiment i suggested which fucks the 2nd law thermodynamics straight,sideways,up and down.

[profitis]

what reputation @farmhand? Sterling and even our own overunity.com websites are regarded as jokes by the elite science circles while at the same time they pull any valuable info that might actualy be worth anything from them :-)

[profitis]

true@domichi.its difficult to find posters here who are 1)openminded to all possibilities and 2)who are on the same intellectual/knowledge level to counter-argue with valuable input.i have seen a few real geniuses pop in on these forums but they are rare gems.there are definitly some good forums out there where the real intellectuals have a fun bash at each other.then ther are other forums like vortex or ecatnews where elite circles and ordinary guys come 2gether and some truly valuable discussions are born indeed.this thread is more testosterone than anything of value.

[DomiChi]

what reputation @farmhand? Sterling and even our own overunity.com websites are regarded as jokes by the elite science circles while at the same time they pull any valuable info that might actualy be worth anything from them :-)

I agree, and worse for OverUnity. Dutch prof. let it for what it is: nothing.
When you say vortex forum, at which adress? As I will work on Schauberger Vortex than can be interesting for me.

"this thread is more testosterone than anything of value" yes it is a pitty because finding the Yildiz secret and use it had been very interesting. Even this thread creator never come back.
On a French forum, I have a friend how already modelize the Yildiz magnetic flow from the pattent. I asked him to update from what we saw in Geneva (because contrary what is said by the 2 pugs , there was things to see in Geneva: They put films to see outside magnetics fields on the engine, and my friend saw something not in accordance with his mathematics model, and he already knows where is the mistake in his mathematics model). In resume, his model is not stage by stage to understand the engine, but combine all the stage fields to understand the necessary instability. As soon as he will put back his explanation on youtube I will tell you. It is in French but as it is a big part on vectors it is also very visual.
On this French forum we also have scam hunter. But when they arrive I tell them that pure gossip is not welcome. And if they cannot reproduce a system, I always say contact the person how is sharing before saying that it not work. They just are alowed to say that they do not succeed. For example the engine that I am trying to reproduce, was never working before, but they stop to quickly. For me, until now the system work like I want (I have only a quarter done then it is not yet perpetual, but it stop where I stop building). As I am not powerfull this time then I order prepared piece to continue, it will delay one week more, but I do not stop. Nothing can stop a passionate. But it does not take much to stop losing starters. Univers move from a long time, and we never use this energy, That have to be corrected even with R.Vialle theory, for which we have the scientists formula (out of 1rst law) .http://youtu.be/Fqt3gC0qvRM and http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/index.htm.