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Overunity Machines Forum



Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

Started by penno64, March 08, 2010, 03:02:32 AM

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hartiberlin

I spoke today with Mr. Sert and another german guy,
who helped Yildiz over a year here in Germany and in Turkey
and they wanted to do real measurements,
also still with the older units,
but they said, Yildiz has scammed many people only out of their
money (huge sums) and never delivered the final proof.

During some measurement setups, always the motor broke down
and so never real measurements could be taken.

Yildiz then said, he must fly back to Turkey to repair it.

He never showed the internal parts of it to the other people
and the German guy said, that Yildiz seems not to understand it himself
and maybe he just has some friends in Turkey, who build it for him
and this is why he could not fix it in Germany and must have flown
back to Turkey.

The german guy, who I trust, cause I already know him
for quite some years, also warned any people, not to put any
money into this, without seeing the inner details of the motor,
which he also did never see, as Yildiz was also very secretive about it
all the time, although they signed NDAs.

ALso, there is a penalty order against Yildiz from
another investor who he also scammed out of his money
and if Yildiz would be again in Germany, he might be
arrested as well as Perendev !

It all surely looks like this motor has hidden batteries
which go down after a while
and this is, why Yildiz never shows the motor
running longer than 30 minutes.

Sorry to burst the bubble, but this is the way it is...
Regards, Stefan.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Airstriker

Quote from: Omnibus link=topic=8870.msg239261#msg239261 A=1272377159
@Airstriker, if that's the way he'd woo investors he'd do better to start a A. Otherwise, the proper way would be to wait until he gets a patent granted and then demonstrate the device properly. The patent is his protection, isn't it? Otherwise why have a patent? Once he has a patent granted the details he's hiding now have to be fully disclosed so that the investors can see what their money is going for. If he doesn't want to disclose anything he should sell it as a trade secret and if he decides to go along that root he has no place in a university, on youtube etc. No one denies him the right to earn money (good luck with the most anti-business project) but that shouldn't be done through scams, hoaxes let alone outright fraud. Shows like the one we're witnessing smells of that rather than of a genuine, honest attempt to attract investors.
Sure he can wait. Do you know how long you have to wait till the patent procedure is finished ? 5 years ? More ? Well.. you don't live forever. If you can attract the investors eyes to the potential product why not do it ? He doesn't have to collect any money now. He just makes us hungry. You can call him a scum - I don't think he cares much. And I don't think he will hide something again when the patent is granted. But of course time will tell.

As for the rpm's slowing down and the "noise"... You forgot about the coils. The coils are there to controll the speed. I don't know his speed controller unit design, do you ? What if it slows down the machine periodically ? Or what if it's not a precise controller unit and it slows down the machine just a bit to much ? Or even what if it's a manual controller unit (just the shorted coils) and the device is continuously slowing down till the operator notices it and "turns off" the coils by hand ? It makes perfect sense to me. Imagine a working magnet A. If it really exists, shouldn't it accelerate to the infinity (theoretically of course)? You really have to slow it down in some way. Coils and the changing load sound good for me.

As for the sound... You have magnets, you have coils - this makes a perfect sound machine ;]

All in all, this machine looks damn good for me. It just simply has all the pieces needed to make it work. Let's just hope that it doesn't have a batery as one of it's pieces ;]

And as for the statement that OU is the most anti-business stuff in the world - why ? If the production line is set it won't stop. Ever. The owner is rich. Forever. Sure - the owner and nobody else. The economy, the global order will change, collape or simply adapt to the situation. For sure they will loose. Many people will loose. War may be ahead. So yes, anti-business stuff, but not for the inventor.

Edit:
One more thing. If you want to replicate it, it won't be easy. First of all, you need those special shaped magnets - not easy to find. If you have some - tell me where to get them ;]

hartiberlin

If Mr. Yildiz continues as he does, he will end up soon
also in prison as Mike Brady for scamming investors.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Omnibus

QuoteDo you know how long you have to wait till the patent procedure is finished ? 5 years ? More ? Well.. you don't live forever.

Well, everybody wants fast money. And, by the way, it seems more than five years have passed since he has filed for a patent. Or, he's going to file periodically so that he will excuse his unwillingness to divulge details (his scam, that is) easily that way. Clever, isn't it?

QuoteIf you can attract the investors eyes to the potential product why not do it ?

Easier still is to rob a bank. Why not do it if the money is to be had at any rate?

QuoteYou can call him a scum - I don't think he cares much.

I know but that doesn't change the overall ufavorable picture.

QuoteAs for the rpm's slowing down and the "noise"... You forgot about the coils. The coils are there to controll the speed. I don't know his speed controller unit design, do you ? What if it slows down the machine periodically ? Or what if it's not a precise controller unit and it slows down the machine just a bit to much ? Or even what if it's a manual controller unit (just the shorted coils) and the device is continuously slowing down till the operator notices it and "turns off" the coils by hand ? It makes perfect sense to me. Imagine a working magnet A. If it really exists, shouldn't it accelerate to the infinity (theoretically of course)? You really have to slow it down in some way. Coils and the changing load sound good for me.

Slowing down or not the fact is that he never showed it working for more than half an hour. Read what Stefan posted above. Is that fact to be ignored as well because we so much want to believe what he's showing is real?

QuoteAnd as for the statement that OU is the most anti-business stuff in the world - why ? If the production line is set it won't stop. Ever. The owner is rich. Forever. Sure - the owner and nobody else. The economy, the global order will change, collape or simply adapt to the situation. For sure they will loose. Many people will loose. War may be ahead. So yes, anti-business stuff, but not for the inventor.

This only applies to the initial stages of development of the technology. In the long run it's self-destructive as business and current businesses know that, they are not stupid.

As for replicating it, I already said, no way before a proper, convincing demonstration id carried out. Enough is enough.

mscoffman


I wonder if there more to the Perendev similarity then meets the
eye? Perhaps Mike Brady knew his time was up and so turned his
motor over to someone else to propagate the scam. It does seem
that resistance to accepting these things at face value is
increasing.

:S:MarkSCoffman