Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[profitis]

@tinselkoala..i hear you,however,if its a case of a scammer looking for co-scammer then why didnt he get it right 6years ago?or 2 years ago?and why isnt he dead yet if the scams been going for ten long years?and why did he fuk the demo up for the purpose of luring a 'co-scammer financier?'

[CazadorDeTruchos]

@DomiChi

How much money pay you Yildiz to defend him on this forum?

Stupid! everyone sees it.

Ja ja, still playing the role of an idiot.

DomiChi: GO TO SCAMMING OTHER SIDE!

[shadowpt]

@shadow,how many times must i say this?yildiz has absolutely nothing to prove to you,his main goal and intention was to prove something to the corporates present at the demo.wether they have decided to take the matter further we may never know.if he was reeeally intending to scam these billionaires do you honestly think he would fuck the demo up ten minutes into it?preposterous man.

So you are saying that his 30 years in the scam business have been only a preparation to the Geneva demo which failed miserably? And we have no clue wether he will give up pursuing his scam after the recent failure?

The motor "failure" was already planned, there was no failure, it was a sideshow to use for the skeptics that were requesting the motor to run continuously for the Gevena duration, he never intended for it to run non-stop in the first place, he just went there to spice it up and attract more attention to the motor.

You don't believe that the motor failure was planed? Let's do a recap then:

The motor ran for (according to their testimony) 4 hours and 35 minutes, at which time the motor started to make some noises (no one heard them, this was all told by the Yildiz team).
So they stopped and found out that inside the motor there were bits of broken magnets, from the 1200 magnets that were present in the motor. Lie, according to his open demonstrations of the motor it cannot hold more than 250 magnets inside.

Strike one.

The increased noise arriving, and the magnet fragments allegedly retrieved from the motor that night are consistent with the story that was told us by Yildiz about why he shut it off.

After that report Yildiz said he:

That night, in the privacy of the motor home he had rented, he opened the motor and extricated the four magnets, two of which had obvious damage to them. In order to clean up the motor of those fragments, he would need 1.5 days and a large area to disassemble the entire motor, clean each magnet (not easy to do) and reassemble the motor.

So in conclusion the motor could not be run again, since he couldn't do the fix on the motor in the first place, but he already showed how easy it was to disassemble the motor itself, it is just a bunch of screwed parts that can be taken and put back with rather ease:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=epLOEaoPMFU#t=409s

But instead he ran it again, according to this report:

Instead, he opted to not try and resume continuous operation, but to just give brief demonstrations of the motor running for about a minute, starting it up by releasing the braking mechanism, then stopping it by re-engaging the braking mechanism. He didn't feel the motor was stable enough to run continuously, and he didn't want a cascading, cataclysmic malfunction of this motor that is 15 years old and allegedly contains some 1200 magnets.

So he was afraid of it to spin out of control because some magnets were broken... The same magnets that are part of a very meticulous schematic where every magnet is important, but afterall if we take out some magnets it can still run? So why wasn't the motor made with less magnets instead of having more of them? Is it because it doesn't matter how many are there as long as the stepped motor is present to make it all turn? This is of course just me wondering but lets take a closer look at the last part of that statement:

he didn't want a cascading, cataclysmic malfunction of this motor

We all know by now that he has inside the motor pancake coils to produce a lenz effect that limit the maximum speed at which the motor runs:

(Duarte says that the stable speed is achieved through a feedback mechanism that prevents the motor spinning to destruction.)

So this excuse contradicts his previous claims, in fact it works against him. If now the motor runs slower because it is missing magnets and it still has the pancake coils to limit the maximum speed then he shouldn't have had no problem letting it run for the rest of the Geneva duration.

Strike two.

Now we reach the final part, the part about the power of the motor.

When the motor is not spinning, it is under tension, wanting to spin up, held still by the braking mechanism.

So far so good, according to what Yildiz says and what the videos show the motor is always on magnetic imbalance, wants to start moving at full force whenever it can. This also means that the brake that holds the motor in place needs to exert the same or a bigger force than the one that is trying to stop, in this case the motor. Lets remember it again, the brake is as strong as the power in the motor to be able to hold it still when it is activated, remember that.

As soon as the brake is released, by Yildiz hitting a mallet against a screw driver, pushing the brake mechanism out of position, the motor immediately spins up, in maybe 1/5 of a second, to its full speed.

Makes sense afterall, it is compatible with what basic math and physics tells us about situations like these, so far so good!

I saw Duarte demonstrate to someone that when stopped, the blade is under tension of the brake, not easy to turn.

Great, everything about this subject is holding together, if the motor is so strong then it isn't easy to either stop or move by hand, but wait...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiuwXLU4v_8&feature=player_detailpage#t=450s

How did that man move the fan with one finger and no effort? Is he superman? According to what has been said until now is that the motor is very strong and not easy to move with hands, so why does he move it with no effort? According to Yildiz, the brake is active since the fan is not rotating, the brake has no level of pressure so it is either activated at full force or deactivated completely so it should be holding really strong at that moment, how does the man move it so lightly?
Even if the brake had some pressure levels that were not disclosed before (according to the reports the motor should be runing slower now since it has less magnets so the brake doesn't need to be active at full force) the RPM readings made by Yildiz's team (http://peswiki.com/index.php/Image:Rpm-data_Yildiz_April10_300.jpg) show us that it was still runing at full force (2500 rpm after the 1500 which cause the "magnet removal"). So the brake is still at full force here.

Strike 3.

Three strikes and its a scam.

Now lets play Clue, for the sake of  the argument. Let's "pretend" that (according to domichi and profitis Yildiz is legit and it is all true) Yildiz and Duarte are scammers, I can be Yildiz and DomiChi can be Duarte.

Me: So, Duarte, this Geneva thing, how are we gonna pull it off? The batteries can only run for 6h, 7h tops and it takes at least 5h for it to start heating the exterior parts. Lets not forget that we won't be able to make it run for the entire Geneva duration.

Duarte: Don't worry, we will come up with an excuse but it can't be a obvious one, we need to tell the people that some of the parts had a problem or even broke, we take the motor out to "repair" it and we switch the batteries.

Me: But what if someone from outside comes with us? We can't deny it or our scam will be discovered.

Duarte: If that happens we will show them parts of broken magnets and we say that the machine has some problems and cannot be run continuously so we will make short demonstrations of it runing. To be safe we let it run for 4 hours and 30 minutes and the rest of the power in the batteries will last for short demonstrations made in long time intervals, that way we can still have enough power in the batteries for the whole Convention.

Me: We should show them magnet tricks to avoid having them requesting more demonstrations than we can offer.


Want to counter-argument? That is how its done, if you can't argue back with proper argumentation then shut your mouth and let the adults make the talk.

[profitis]

@shadow...the number of magnets inside is irrelevent,thus no reason to lie..strike1.broken magnets=fucked up synchronicity,logic..strike2..there may be gears in this device..strike 3.

[CazadorDeTruchos]

@shadowpt Beatifull!!!

Good point!

Strike 1, 2, 3

Knockout

@profitis: still playing the role of an idiot, ja ja ja
You and DomiChi are pathetic!

Shut yours mouths!!