Muammer Yildiz Magnet Motor

[TinselKoala]

Mark:

Thanks for your comments.  When I first read Wayne's postings his technical language was simply silly and made no sense.  I asked him how he measured his output power and refused to acknowledge the question at first.  He eventually begrudgingly acknowledged the question but never answered it.  Many months later and all that you get from him are pseudoscience "sermons" about his bliss on his website.

So Wayne fits into that mould that we are all too familiar with.

MileHigh

There are some unique features of the Wayne Travis / HydroEnergyRevolution story. The one that stands out the most in my mind is that Travis has actually +paid money out+ to people who have made little models of nested tubes.... one builder received a substantial amount of money for his build which was made from tennis ball packaging tubes cut to shape and glued and taped together.... and others have also gotten payments of money from Travis. These people of course are now sycophants of Travis, even though their constructions produce no unusual behaviour. Two thousand dollars buys a lot of loyalty, evidently.
The "cult" aspect is also clear from the history. Travis has invited many people to see and hear his demonstrations. Most of them probably understand perfectly what is going on and flee with their wallets and checkbooks intact. But he has been able to convince some few "faithful", even apparently including some trained engineers, that his fantasy is worth pursuing. These become defacto members of the ZED cult, and are supported financially and socially within the cult. This selection process is identical to that used by religious and UFO cults, which as we all know, wind up including some people who should really know better.

[profitis]

@tk.yes it becomes a big deal when the power density of a similar type of cell goes up a hundred-fold,incentive for the markdansies of the world to come over to my lab. 

[TinselKoala]

TK,

REALLY???

You are still carrying on about all that,, let me see,, I built a testbed for a method to build, then tested the testbed and things looked great,, then I reported to everyone what I was finding, to the best of my abilities, and just because you can not do the same???

Small note on this,  TK could never find any residual pressure after the lift, or any use for it,, or what ever he kept carrying on about,,

And now you have blown it all up into a Cult,, next you are going to make out that Wayne is some kind ,, why give you more fodder.

Really.
Tell me, Webby. Does Mister Wayne now have a self-running device that operates without input or exhaust and produces useful excess energy? Did he ever?

Small note on this: Get your facts straight.  I actually DID build a "self-powered water pump" incorporating a WORKING single - layer ZED nested riser-ringwall assembly and showed that it DID INDEED increase pressure and flow rate, at the expense of flow duration. My work on the Travis/Zed issue is available for anyone to see in my YouTube videos. There has never been any question about the _leverage_ that is afforded by the nested hydraulic cylinder arrangement. But that's not the issue, the issue is and always has been Travis's claim to have a self running machine, and things like his promise to build a 50 kW unit in the churchyard, when, three years ago now wasn't it?
You, Webby, were bought and paid for by Wayne Travis and you don't even realize it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlLYD4CSJLU

[profitis]

@tk.they say the gamboni pile gives nanoamperes to the oxford motor and is a ordinary zinc-carbon system with solid electrolyte whilst the karpen pile gives milliamperes to its motor and is by no means a ordinary galvanic system.they measured its voltage about 3 yrs ago and its precisely the same as it was in 1953

[markdansie]

@tk.yes it becomes a big deal when the power density of a similar type of cell goes up a hundred-fold,incentive for the markdansies of the world to come over to my lab.

Dear profits, I would be delighted, most of all I would be delighted to see your data and measurement methodologies. The measurements are where most people go wrong as Tk is far more qualified than I to point out, especially with pulsed dc and ac.
I am not sure of what your technology is so it would be wrong of me to speculate in anyway. i have an open mind, but in reality its been 100% bust in the past. However I will say there are some great new applications of old technology that can and will have a big influence on people.
Kind Regards