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Overunity Machines Forum



Running a lawnmower

Started by Artic_Knight, March 09, 2010, 02:57:44 PM

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Artic_Knight

well the reason im not concerned with the amount of hho that it takes to drive an engine is because comparing hydrogen to gasoline there is a distinctive difference in power, and seeing how much my engine takes with gasoline i dont see it needing that much hho unless its not properly set. i dont need an increase in HP so when i look at 1ltr of hho vs 1ltr of gas vapor well its a difference :)

i like popping hho its fun :p

ive got to get a manual for my model so i can adjust timing and check on how it gets fuel, perhaps i can utilize the existing fuel line.

5lpm you think? hmm  im thinking closer to 2lpm but this is my first conversion so it will be interesting to see what it takes :)


WilbyInebriated

here are a couple rhetorical questions...

why is there a compression stroke in a gas powered engine?

does hho need a compression stroke?
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
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mscoffman

Quote from: Artic_Knight on March 10, 2010, 03:37:16 PM
well the reason im not concerned with the amount of hho that it takes to drive an engine is because comparing hydrogen to gasoline there is a distinctive difference in power, and seeing how much my engine takes with gasoline i dont see it needing that much hho unless its not properly set. i dont need an increase in HP so when i look at 1ltr of hho vs 1ltr of gas vapor well its a difference :)

i like popping hho its fun :p

ive got to get a manual for my model so i can adjust timing and check on how it gets fuel, perhaps i can utilize the existing fuel line.

5lpm you think? hmm  im thinking closer to 2lpm but this is my first conversion so it will be interesting to see what it takes :)

@ AK;

Gasoline is a liquid so you would be correct about it with liquid hydrogen. :)
Did you know that liquid hydrogen is like half the weight of water?

Timing on a lawn mower is likely to be fixed...maybe adjustable by sliding
the coil around a bit on it's mounting brackets.

On the 2 liters vs 5 liters per minute you could be right. There is information
about this around on the web though.

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@WilbyInebriated

a) You will need to compress the air at any rate. Oxygen in
the air and fuel need to be in a stochiometric "balanced" ratio.
The compression cycle is one full rotation of the crankshaft.
Also simple gas pressure regulation largely "wastes" the
pressure energy of the gas on the variable high pressure side.

b) Whether a fuel burns or explodes "detonates" depend on the
applied pressure. This is why it is dangerous to throw
gasoline onto a fire from a closed container. If the fumes in
the container ignite the container can detonate.  The pressure
gets the air fuel mix half way there. In a diesel engine it gets
it all the way. Do you know that the diesel pressure of hho is
only 400psi?

:S:MarkSCoffman


WilbyInebriated

Quote from: mscoffman on March 10, 2010, 04:51:03 PM
@WilbyInebriated

a) You will need to compress the air at any rate. Oxygen in
the air and fuel need to be in a stochiometric "balanced" ratio.
The compression cycle is one full rotation of the crankshaft.
Also simple gas pressure regulation largely "wastes" the
pressure energy of the gas on the variable high pressure side.

b) Whether a fuel burns or explodes "detonates" depend on the
applied pressure. This is why it is dangerous to throw
gasoline onto a fire from a closed container. If the fumes in
the container ignite the container can detonate.  The pressure
gets the air fuel mix half way there. In a diesel engine it gets
it all the way. Do you know that the diesel pressure of hho is
only 400psi?

:S:MarkSCoffman
thanks mark, i'm well aware what a compression cycle is and how an ICE works as well as the reasons why gasoline combusts. do you know what a rhetorical question is? ;)
There is no news. There's the truth of the signal. What I see. And, there's the puppet theater...
the Parliament jesters foist on the somnambulant public.  - Mr. Universe

Artic_Knight

400 psi? thats all? very interesting... do you by chance know what the psi in a regular gas burning engine is?

hmm i wonder if a engine could be modified a bit to generate that pressure....