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Fibonacci, platonic solids and Vortex coils

Started by Mk1, March 09, 2010, 10:39:44 PM

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Mk1

Quote from: jeanna on March 13, 2010, 07:04:42 PM
Mark,
In the drawing you show a perfect triangle. You begin by moving toward the tube and end away from the tube (I am referring to the red arrows.)
When the one triangle is finished you must move on to the next spot to begin the next triangle.
So, my question is...
If your start and finish point is 7 on a clock, is the next triangle going to be toward 6 o'clock or 8 o'clock?

Did you try both ways?
---I do not understand what you are saying.

About the second layer, I am assuming the bifilar is made in alternate wires on the tube on each layer. Is that right?


Thank you,

jeanna

Jeanna

Going toward 6 on a clock , by connecting the coil you can have it both ways , but winding it i always go usually to the right of the previous layer.
On x design one it going in opposite direction for each other.

You are right on the bililar question.

Mk1

@all

In the theory exposed by Agentgates , saying that the diamagnetic of copper was causing the effect , so i tried aluminum (Paramagnetic)
it also works.

It left me with one question is the negative back spike , is because we us copper , could we change the material and get a positive one ?

Or even better produce both ?

Diamagnetic metals have a very weak and negative susceptibility to magnetic fields. Diamagnetic materials are slightly repelled by a magnetic field and the material does not retain the magnetic properties when the external field is removed. Diamagnetic materials are solids with all paired electron resulting in no permanent net magnetic moment per atom. Diamagnetic properties arise from the realignment of the electron orbits under the influence of an external magnetic field. Most elements in the periodic table, including copper, silver, and gold, are diamagnetic.

Paramagnetic metals have a small and positive susceptibility to magnetic fields. These materials are slightly attracted by a magnetic field and the material does not retain the magnetic properties when the external field is removed. Paramagnetic properties are due to the presence of some unpaired electrons, and from the realignment of the electron orbits caused by the external magnetic field. Paramagnetic materials include magnesium, molybdenum, lithium, and tantalum.

Mark

Mk1

Quote from: ElectricGoose on March 12, 2010, 06:03:57 AM
Thanks for the reply Mark.

Do your bifilar winds actually start on opposite sides of the former (crossing at the same point but running in parallel?)  whoa is that clear?   :P

Regards

E-Goose

I agree  ???

I almost mist it , i have done both , i have yet concluded on it .

Mark

ElectricGoose

Quote from: Mk1 on March 13, 2010, 09:19:50 PM
I agree  ???

I almost mist it , i have done both , i have yet concluded on it .

Mark

Hee hee...and here I was thinking I had totally confuddled you!  :D

Now this is all VERY intriguing and I am wondering some things after trialing some variants in addition to what I have played with previous.  Conclusion?  It has left me with even more questions (or more appropriately 'avenues to experiment') than the answers I was hoping for.  Ugggh.

I noticed 'AG' says that for his effect to be efficient, he prefers a spacing of 3 - 5mm between wires (minimum) (if using ONE wire and some sort of oscilation circuit).  However, because we are utilizing a bifilar/transistor oscillation I noticed that your wires appear somewhat closer Mark?  Or is that the camera playing tricks?  Pickup/satelite coil spacing not so important I am concluding.

Also, have you noticed what is more efficient in performance?  1) Wire 'slope' on the former face or 2)number of TOTAL turns (revolutions around former)? 

Regards

E=Goose2

Mk1

Quote from: ElectricGoose on March 13, 2010, 09:53:36 PM
Hee hee...and here I was thinking I had totally confuddled you!  :D

Now this is all VERY intriguing and I am wondering some things after trialing some variants in addition to what I have played with previous.  Conclusion?  It has left me with even more questions (or more appropriately 'avenues to experiment') than the answers I was hoping for.  Ugggh.

I noticed 'AG' says that for his effect to be efficient, he prefers a spacing of 3 - 5mm between wires (minimum) (if using ONE wire and some sort of oscilation circuit).  However, because we are utilizing a bifilar/transistor oscillation I noticed that your wires appear somewhat closer Mark?  Or is that the camera playing tricks?  Pickup/satelite coil spacing not so important I am concluding.

Also, have you noticed what is more efficient in performance?  1) Wire 'slope' on the former face or 2)number of TOTAL turns (revolutions around former)? 

Regards

E=Goose2

Ok in this movie
http://www.youtube.com/user/abramrk1#p/u/3/wS935WyumjY

The coil has more space between to coils , see what happen to the bulb one the pickup coil when i connect on one the transistor , the bulb on the pickup coil gets brighter , but this not true for the slim , now is it because of the spacing in the pickup coil or the one on the jt , i am still not sure, sorry ...

The 45 degree angle slope seemed logical but lab experiment will be needed to have a definitive value for that slope.

I did notice a big improvement (in voltage output) over my first one that had a 15/75 slope.

Mark