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Bruce's Discovery, Tesla's Missing Link for his Unipolar Generator!

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gravityblock

#125
May 07, 2010, 11:59:42 PM
Quote from: PYRODIN123321 on May 07, 2010, 12:55:28 PM
Hi, I read that stuff on Tesla posted in this thread the other day, got me thinking, anybody know if this has been done before?
I was thinking it might work, what if the magnet is completley surrounded by wire and mounted on an axle the current all going the same way {see picture}
I might mess with it, looks pretty easy to build....

Having the magnet completely surround by wire isn't any different than using the nickel coating on a magnet as the conductor.  The thing to remember is the current will be flowing in the same direction on both sides of the magnet and to connect each side in series will be an engineering nightmare.

I have designs which allow the current to flow from one side of the magnet to the other side of the magnet to increase the voltage and to allow the current to be extracted on each side of the magnet at the axle.  Both sides of the magnet will be naturally connected in series to increase the voltage to the fourth power and has the same effect as doubling the radii of the disc/magnets in terms of power output.

Your idea is a good idea and I hope you continue thinking around this principal.  I posted a design earlier in this thread where two halbach arrays with like poles facing outwards are completely enshrouded in copper and where the magnets will rotate inside this copper shell that completely surrounds the arrays.  It can also be done in a "Disc/N/S/S/N/Disc" setup, but there must be enough distance between each magnet so they don't interfere with each other.  As you can see, I'm in much agreement with your idea and thoughts, but the proper configuration is extremely important.

There are a lot of possibilities and different types of configurations for the HPG/HPM that are never tested.  Most will build the basic and well know configurations and stop with their research.  This is why I'm glad to see Bruce working on a design that is outside the basic and already well tested configurations.

Maybe there will be a day where I will have enough money for the build to test my personal theories.  In the meantime I will slowly gather the materials I need to perform the tests.  I enjoyed your drawings!

Thanks,

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

gravityblock

#126
May 08, 2010, 12:26:44 AM
@Broli: 

It's good to see you're still around and posting on the HPG topics (I really miss reading your posts).  Do you remember the test we did with the loop of wire on a rotor which rotated between two magnets when the field was confined?  There was no net torque on the loop of wire, but there was a torque on the portion of the wire that went radially between the axis and the rim.  The pancake coil has a portion of the wire that also runs radially.

Won't this radial wire portion on the pancake coil generate a counter torque or am I overlooking something?  Yes, the voltage may be higher with a pancake coil, but the radial portion will also be cutting all of the loops of wire in the pancake coil and the counter torque will increase in proportion to the voltage increase.  We both know there are designs to increase the voltage, but when we do so, we also increase the counter torque. 

I don't really accept the idea that the voltage on the disc will be smaller than the voltage in the pancake coil, because the voltage remains relatively the same between any two connection points, which means the voltage between the pancake coil and the disc will be the same since they are electrically connected together and are part of the same circuit.

Also, I know you're familiar with the Distinti Documents because you are the one who made me aware of his research.  Did you ever study the Paradox2 experiment and what were your thoughts on this if you did study the experiment?  You can leave me a PM if you like so we don't clutter up this thread.

Thanks,

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.

Bruce_TPU

#127
May 08, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Quote from: gravityblock on May 08, 2010, 12:26:44 AM
@Broli: 

It's good to see you're still around and posting on the HPG topics (I really miss reading your posts).  Do you remember the test we did with the loop of wire on a rotor which rotated between two magnets when the field was confined?  There was no net torque on the loop of wire, but there was a torque on the portion of the wire that went radially between the axis and the rim.  The pancake coil has a portion of the wire that also runs radially.

Won't this radial wire portion on the pancake coil generate a counter torque or am I overlooking something?  Yes, the voltage may be higher with a pancake coil, but the radial portion will also be cutting all of the loops of wire in the pancake coil and the counter torque will increase in proportion to the voltage increase.   We both know there are designs to increase the voltage, but when we do so, we also increase the counter torque. 

I don't really accept the idea that the voltage on the disc will be smaller than the voltage in the pancake coil, because the voltage remains relatively the same between any two connection points, which means the voltage between the pancake coil and the disc will be the same since they are electrically connected together and are part of the same circuit.

Also, I know you're familiar with the Distinti Documents because you are the one who made me aware of his research.  Did you ever study the Paradox2 experiment and what were your thoughts on this if you did study the experiment?  You can leave me a PM if you like so we don't clutter up this thread.

Thanks,

GB

Hi GB,

I do not mind the discussion as related to paradox2 experiment, by broli, or anyone else, as it relates to the work.

I highlighted a portion of your quote above, because you may just be right and it has spawned an idea...  :-\  Since I am stacking all five bifilar pancakes together, and drawing the bifilar wire straight through each of the other coils, and then "running" them at the end, I think that I can lengthen them and pancake them in the same exact manner, though less turns because I will be bringing out five leads from the center.  This would accomplish allowing all current to be flowing in the identical direction, via identical direction windings.  (Actually, come to think of it, if all of the coils are wound CCW, would I want to wind the inside leads going out, as CCW or CW??)

What are your thoughts on this?  Do you think it would be worthwhile doing?  Now it the time for me to decide.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

Bruce_TPU

#128
May 08, 2010, 01:36:42 PM
Happy Saturday everyone,

This morning I ran some tests on one of my Bifilar Tesla Pancake coils.  One with black iron oxide on one side.  All was encouraging considering I have used such large wire and have only 40 feet.  I wanted low resistance (like the low resistance of a disc) and that is exactly what I got!

Tesla Bifilar Coil w/black iron oxide Test:
Inductance - 84.3 uH
Resistance - 0.1 Ohms  (this is the entire coil, with the bifilar connected!)  ;D

pulsar set to 12 vdc output:

coil output:
3.03 vac at 1.4 KHz with 335 mv dc, at 21.7% duty cycle
Frequency below, or above this decreases the voltage, increased duty cycle.

I am actually hoping for 5 or 6 volts per coil on my generator output... at 5 coils, this would give me over 25 volts DC at very high amps.

I have finished the thin fiberglass coat, on all three coils and I have finished the black iron oxide coating on two of them, as one coil will not have this.  (explained in a previous post.)  I will post some pictures later when they dry.

I look forward to hearing from GB or broli on my question above, in my last post.

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

gravityblock

#129
May 08, 2010, 04:27:08 PM
Quote from: Bruce_TPU on May 08, 2010, 01:33:24 AM
Hi GB,

I do not mind the discussion as related to paradox2 experiment, by broli, or anyone else, as it relates to the work.

I highlighted a portion of your quote above, because you may just be right and it has spawned an idea...  :-\  Since I am stacking all five bifilar pancakes together, and drawing the bifilar wire straight through each of the other coils, and then "running" them at the end, I think that I can lengthen them and pancake them in the same exact manner, though less turns because I will be bringing out five leads from the center.  This would accomplish allowing all current to be flowing in the identical direction, via identical direction windings.  (Actually, come to think of it, if all of the coils are wound CCW, would I want to wind the inside leads going out, as CCW or CW??)

What are your thoughts on this?  Do you think it would be worthwhile doing?  Now it the time for me to decide.

Cheers,

Bruce

The inside leads going out should be wound in the same direction as the coils.  I think this would be worthwhile and is an excellent idea.  If there's no radial portions, then you should eliminate the back torque, but you may also eliminate the voltage/current.  This is my only issue at the moment, otherwise your idea is really interesting and has me thinking.

GB
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, and expecting a different result.

God will confuse the wise with the simplest things of this world.  He will catch the wise in their own craftiness.
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