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GBluer(Slayer) Exiter

Started by slayer007, March 28, 2010, 09:26:54 PM

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NickZ

  Until the next guy sells an Exciter for $25, including the diagram. Or some oriental guys, will sell them for less than that.
  But, I know how you feel... and can't blame you.

  Look at what happened with Lasersaber's all in one solar device. Same thing...
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/solarjuan/eclipse-the-day-and-night-solar-solution


Qwert

Quote from: slayer007 on February 14, 2013, 12:30:36 PM
Sorry people but this is why I will not be showing any more of my circuits on line.

TeslaTronix- Tesla Power For The Masses by TeslaTronix — Kickstarter

He is selling the slayer exciters, kits, and also selling my circuit diagrams.

I tried to get kickstarter to stop the project but no emails from them yet.

I tried to talk to TeslaTronix many times. His response was to F off.

I guess, this needs an action to write more complains to the KickStarter. Complaining only on this forum won't help too much. Any address, to contact the KickStarter to express a complain?

NickZ

 At the very bottom of the kickstarter there is section that can be used to make comments, and report this add, but you have to sign in to use it.

Farmhand

These exciters are just another way to drive a Tesla coil, each different circuit is just a variation of the same basic thing.
A Kacher circuit does basically the same thing as a joule thief. Is there anything to really protect ?
The wireless aspect is a curiosity but it isn't all that useful when the distance is so short. Many of us can light tubes without wire's
but it isn't all that practical, the aspect of draining non rechargeable batteries right down is useful, though only if one has
the non rechargeable batteries to drain down.

As far as expecting people to not copy things that are not protected, I don't get it.
Imagine if the first guy to make a hat was seen wearing his hat then others began to copy his hat and use it,
does the guy who first made the hat have the right to go around telling other people they have no right to make
their own hat or make a hat for other people who might not be capable of making a hat but can catch fish to trade for hats.
Unless he was the only one with a weapon and had lots of time to deny everyone the use of the hat idea he would quickly
realize if he wanted to manufacture and sell hats he would have needed to be the only one to understand how to make the hat
and have control of all the hat making materials.

Would it be ethical to deny others the right to make a hat or to make and sell hats when it is such a simple thing ?
Some things are just too simple to warrant any protections.

The only way to protect a simple idea is to keep it secret.

Here's the bottom line, an exciter is really just a Tesla coil and 90% of the circuits that people use to drive the low power exciters do the exact same thing.

What is there to protect ? A few lines on a piece of paper ?

I thought we were open source experimenters/developers working for the good of mankind
to produce concepts and devices that save energy and better the environment.

I have a question for those with young children. Would you use an exciter to provide the power for a nightlight
or other such thing to be used for long periods in the same room as the young child ? Does the exciter not affect the environment ?
What are the effects of HF radiating devices on children ? Are the devices safe in the case of malfunction and fire.
If the transistor fails does the battery become shorted by the primary and maybe start a fire ?
How safe are the circuits and are they really suitable for sale without some safety aspects being addressed ?
Does anyone have any insurance against the devices they sell causing injury and legal action ?
If you sell an exciter and it burns down someones home and people die where do you stand legally ?
Imagine some young fellow (living with parents) with very little electronic experience buys an exciter online and sets it up in the
family home and it catches fire and burns the house down. If you charged the young fella money for the device and you claimed
it was safe and suitable for sale, then you could be held accountable maybe.

If I come up with a new circuit and post it online it's open source, all I ask is maybe some recognition, but it's not required. Use, use, use I say.

Cheers



Qwert

I guess, it's even not about protecting rights; it is rather about making people aware that the product which that guy sells for real money, is available for free and it was available long time before he started his enterprise.
To make a comment on that site, one not only must register; only "backers" can do that. So, first you have to back him with at least $1 promise and must have established account to do so.