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GBluer(Slayer) Exiter

Started by slayer007, March 28, 2010, 09:26:54 PM

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Rfacts

slayer007:

« Reply #234 on: 3/1/13 at 06:23:42 AM »
"If you would have taken the time to build the two circuits before you posted you would see they are nothing alike.  The only similarities they have is how they both excite the environment around them hence the name exciter."

I purchased SEC exciters from Dr. Stiffler when he made them available.  I'm also trained in electronics, but you don't have to be to see the obvious 'similarity' between Dr. Stiffler's SEC exciter circuit and yours.  It is more accurate to state that when comparing these exciter circuits and components, they are not 'similar' they are the same:

Dr. Stiffler's SEC Exciter                                              GBluer's Slayer Exciter
(single transistor circuit)                                             (single transistor circuit)
Emitter has direct DC path to (-)                                      Same
Base has one megohm resistor to (+)                              Same
Collector has DC path to (+) thru L2 coil                          Same
Two diodes and LED between base and emitter             Same (LED optional)
One MPSA06 NPN transistor per previous video              Same
Two 1N4148 diodes per previous video                           Same

When comparing the component connections of your single transistor exciter to Dr. Stiffler's SEC exciter you will find that they are exactly the same.  All you did was connect two unterminated coils, one at the emitter and one at the base, to Dr. Stiffler's SEC exciter circuit and removed the series LC tuning circuit from the transistor base.  Are you claiming that the Slayer exciter circuit which you publicly posted is your invention because of how you connected two unterminated coils to Dr. Stiffler's SEC exciter circuit? 

Since you acknowledge that you have followed Dr. Stiffler's work and are a fan, I don't understand why you have not realized that the exciter circuits are the same with a variation in coil configuration.  Maybe you aren't familiar with Dr. Stiffler's other SEC exciter configurations since he does copyright his documents.  Now that Dr. Stiffler has publicly posted the schematic of the latest configuration of his SEC exciter circuit anyone interested can see the standard SEC exciter that he has configured in various ways over the years, he only posted his latest performing a unique electrolyzer function which is running against Faraday's first law.

« Reply #234 on: 3/1/13 at 06:23:42 AM »
"RFacts the only thing in your post your right about is I am a big fan of Dr Stiffler and his work."

Not only did I provide you the above list of all that I had right about your exciter circuit being the same but wasn't I also right about the verifiable lies and exaggerations that Kultus (DesertExperimenter) has been spreading about TeslaTronix, regardless of whether you agree with TT's actions or not?

I don't know you but you seem like a decent guy pursuing a similar goal and I hope you are successful.  I'm sure you would agree that credit should go where credit is due, so I don't think you would knowingly claim something that was not yours.  I have learned more from Dr. Stiffler than I have from anyone else on the internet through his forum posts, videos, previous web site, downloaded/purchased Scribd documents, and the SEC exciters with documentation that I purchased from him.  I'm addressing the facts about your exciter circuit that came to light due to the Kultus irrational rant video.  I was primarily annoyed by the smear campaign that others have resorted to in trying to support you.  If it wasn't for Kultus and his recruitment of accomplices to spread his lies and exaggerations I may not have found out about this controversy or posted here to begin with. His slanderous videos are still running on various YT channels, he could have supported you without resorting to smear.  If anyone running his 'TT Fraudster Assassination' video thinks they have a winning argument why don't they just present the facts in a way that helps more than hurts you?  I would take the same stand if someone attacked you or someone else in the same irrational manner.

If you thought you were the original inventor of this exciter circuit and you were planning to retain rights to it why didn't you go through the patent process to prove you were the original inventor?  You don't come across as credible about this when you don't acknowledge what any objective reviewer can see as being the same between these exciter circuits.  I'm a rational man, if I get something wrong I'll stand corrected but I do expect supporting evidence.

Rfacts

ramset:

Do you prefer to be a part of a subgroup in this community that turns a blind eye to inconvenient facts?  Why are you attempting to switch the argument, is it because you can't argue the facts about the exciter circuits or do you not care to know?  Kultus took me down this road with his lies and exaggerations and statements about the Slayer exciter circuit.  I don't know TeslaTronix and think he didn't handle this right but he has a legal right to pursue his business venture and it does not change the facts I've addressed about the exciter circuits. 

This is primarily a scientific minded community, so why ignore or dismiss facts just because they don't help your goal or cause?  Or even worse, why allow someone to make up their own facts by resorting to lies, exaggerations and double standards.  This is what annoys me the most.  Your subjective bias comes through when you let others do this without directly addressing them publicly, especially since you are an outspoken 'hero' member.  You don't seem to have a problem with directly addressing those that are not on the same side of the issue.  The reason I first posted here was because I was not going to be part of this subgroup, I addressed Kultus directly about his easily verifiable lies and exaggerations and he didn't respond to disagree.  He could have supported GBluer without resorting to smear which I think has hurt him more than helped him.  Do you agree with his irrational approach of mixing in lies to see what would stick and titling his smear video 'TT Fraudster Assassination' when he didn't have all the facts about the exciter circuit?

If you pick and choose facts here, you're likely to pick and choose facts over there, and soon this mind set creeps into experimental work.  This is the kind of thing that turns off members and visitors as they read through forums.  To hold someone like Kultus to a different standard just because you are on the same side of this issue is disgraceful.  I would rather keep to myself pursuing the facts and applying them consistently, learning and contributing what I can, but I couldn't just turn a blind eye to this kind of irrational behavior.  How can wrong be done to an open source project if the circuit in question did not belong to the claimant to begin with?  Wouldn't you want to make sure you got it right when valid questions are raised?  This is no small matter for various reasons.  As I've stated before, if I get something wrong I'll stand corrected but I do expect a well reasoned argument with convincing facts and not general 'feel good' 'holier then thou' type comments about altruistic causes.

One should not jump to conclusions before they have all of the facts and should not assume that they know more than the other, nor should they make bad assumptions about the intentions of others.

ramset

RF
Are you an attorney whanabee looking for a clear path thru Slayers Art form and life long example of A life lived and dedication to serving his fellow man?


What    ?    you want some one to tell you its all right to Steal from the givers and say F---You?


I see that you have asked for tutorials on how to build certain things here ?
Are you a bird of a feather?


Sir ,How you choose to live is your free will.Do not think for an instant that you could ever justify the actions of these Takers from this Good Samaritan.


You do you    Bud!


Fair thee well..............


Chet   
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

Rfacts

There you have it, ramset may not only prefer to be a member of the subgroup but may want to be their leader and spokesperson.  I alerted about jumping to conclusions and 'holier than thou' response but ramset still couldn't help but provide an irrational rambling diatribe that includes bad assumptions.  Not what you would expect from a helpful supporter.

ramset

RF
If I lived in a world where men were working against an adversary that let their children die in wars
and all was about money and control.


If I needed Help in that struggle fear not RF you would be the last to be asked for help.


You don't see any problems at all with what TT has done ,as well as you print lies to bolster your claim.
Chet wants to lead What?


...........
You have a passion ,one which seems to be oblivious to the plight as well as right and wrong!


I am sorry I can not sit and talk with you,and I have no time to waste typing.
If you want to help in this struggle spend some time Giving......


And less time whining!


Thx
Chet
Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma