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CLaNZeR can achieve overunity!

Started by Rapadura, April 13, 2010, 11:35:36 PM

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Omnibus

Quote from: Rapadura on April 16, 2010, 04:03:19 PM
There's a enormous difference between a ball falling from a tall mountain peak and what I had seen on Clanzer's video:

1) The runner in Clanzer's videos is not losing gravitational potential energy. In fact it can even gain gravitational potential energy going uphill in a gentle slope.

2) At the end of the very last array, the runner don't gets stuck at a sticky point. The sticky points are in the beggining of the arrays, so at the very end of the last array there's no sticky point, the runner keeps moving after exiting the last array.

No, no, read again carefully what I explained and try to think it through more thoroughly. Never forget the initial energy necessary to be put in when placing the roller at the start. Also, understand that the experiment with the roller is the opposite to the experiment with SMOT. This whole thing has been discussed at length in several threads. Like I said, the main problem is that so far no one has been able to make the ball or the roller travel along a closed loop.

mscoffman

@all

The problem in a open magnetic system is that the magnets in a large
long array will tug at the ball or runner on it's return path even though
it is not in the array's central hot spot. The slower the runner returns
the more "mischief" the collective magnetic field can do on its return
path. The thing would be to shield the magnets in the array with an
iron armature that would focus the magnetic field heavely into the
track area and have less lines of flux flowing off generally. The halbach
array and to some extent the triforce gates do that, but is it
enough??? There was a youtube video of a person shaking a
magnetic "wand" and one observes a similar suspended wand let's
say 6 feet away, moving vigorously...That's the effect we are fighting.

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Eventually you will want a magnetic runner that will reject arbitrary
magnetization which a steel ball can not.

:S:MarkSCoffman

billmehess

His video #2 showing the exit from the array is very interesting. Notice that there is a acceleration through the gate to allow the exit to happen. I wonder if it would be possible to have a single long enough array for the device to exit as such as to speed to loop over and enter a
over head "tube"  The tube would be angled slightly downward and allow the device to reenter the initial array-just a thought.

Omnibus

Quote from: billmehess on April 17, 2010, 12:22:16 AM
His video #2 showing the exit from the array is very interesting. Notice that there is a acceleration through the gate to allow the exit to happen. I wonder if it would be possible to have a single long enough array for the device to exit as such as to speed to loop over and enter a
over head "tube"  The tube would be angled slightly downward and allow the device to reenter the initial array-just a thought.

Unlike SMOT, there is an insurmountable entrance barrier in this case, if you remember the demonstrations when this was discussed. If you don't put the roller just right it will go the other way, not toward the track we see it rolling along in the video.

billmehess

Yes  I see what your mean, but what if the device  "dropped' into
the entrance of the array at an angle just due to gravity of it " falling" through the tube.
Again if sufficent speed could be atttained the device exits the array loops back over itself. Sounds to easy though, I think the problem would be the looping over at the exit.
I would like to see a ramp built at the entrance of the array and the device in effect rolled into the array.