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GENERATOR- YOU DO THE IN/OUT POWER MATH

Started by magnetman12003, April 19, 2010, 09:16:15 AM

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DeepCut

#95
May 07, 2010, 11:03:55 PM
I'm thinking i should rectify both output coils seperately then sum the output after the bridge ?

*EDIT* then again, after separate rectification how on earth can they be summed ?

Surely it's like having two power sources trying to go to one input ??

Anyway it's 4am here so im of to get some shuteye, nn :) *EDIT*


Gary, the ever-confused (and sleepy) ;+}

Bruce_TPU

#96
May 08, 2010, 02:01:04 AM
Quote from: DeepCut on May 07, 2010, 11:03:55 PM
I'm thinking i should rectify both output coils seperately then sum the output after the bridge ?

*EDIT* then again, after separate rectification how on earth can they be summed ?

Surely it's like having two power sources trying to go to one input ??

Anyway it's 4am here so im of to get some shuteye, nn :) *EDIT*


Gary, the ever-confused (and sleepy) ;+}

I think you have induction from your motor coil into your output coil.  Seperate the coil at that one spot, so there is no wire between the motor coil and the magnet at this one point.  See attached pic.  That should work....

Cheers,

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

DeepCut

#97
May 08, 2010, 06:30:00 AM
Hi Bruce.

I have widened the gap between the drive and pickup coils and it still cuts out when a circuit is formed by the output coils :

http://qvision.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/coilspace.jpg

Here is a vid of it shorting :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sp5CwUdmHCk

Am i wrong in thinking that you can't have two power sources (both output coils) fully connected ? Isn't that then a closed loop of power running around so it's one big short-circuit ?

The drive coil/circuitry is totally seperate from the pickup coils, not connected at all.


Gary.










gyulasun

#98
May 08, 2010, 06:58:42 AM
Hi Gary.

Yes the two output coils mutually short each other if connected directly.  If you wish to use them together you can connect the two in series, this adds the output voltages  (you have to watch for this connection not to counter connect them because then their voltage difference comes out, not their sum).  IF you want higher current than you have to use thicker wire, just like the practice shows for normal mains transformers.

QuoteLast night, with the 100 ohm resistor, the motor wouldn't even start.

QuoteI tried starting the motor at 18 V then attaching the resistor but the motor just slows to a stop pretty quickly. 

These are bad news unfortunately. It can only be explained by the normal Lenz law effect any normal generator has. You may say this is not a normal generator...  this is true BUT Lenz law is still valid, unfortunately.

QuoteAlso, my new multimeter was fine, but now i can't even read the voltage off a 1.5V battery !

Every reading i try to take the meter signifies 'off the scale' by showing a '1' on the left-side of the display !!

IT is a good idea to take the meter away from the revolving magnet field (or stop the motor) and just check it with a 1.5V battery again. If you find the same problem with the meter than it may be faulty? Check it in every possible range like resistor measurement, AC mains voltage in its highest AC range etc, be careful!

Thanks for your PM, just read it and sorry I do not have Skype or msn etc.
Will answer your problems here from time to time for sure.

rgds,  Gyula

DeepCut

#99
May 08, 2010, 08:04:31 AM
Thanks Gyula, i thought as much.

What are your thoughts on this meter i am thinking of getting next week :

http://www.uni-trend.com/manual2/UT50ABC%20Eng%20Manual.pdf


Gary.
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