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GENERATOR- YOU DO THE IN/OUT POWER MATH

Started by magnetman12003, April 19, 2010, 09:16:15 AM

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DeepCut

#30
April 21, 2010, 01:23:21 PM
Doh !

I didn't have the lead pushed right in when i switched sockets :(


S O R R Y !

Bruce_TPU

#31
April 21, 2010, 07:03:58 PM
Quote from: DeepCut on April 21, 2010, 09:23:50 AM
OK, hope i'm doing this correctly.

Input : 12.56VDC @ 0.130A

Output (rectified) : 33.6VDC @ 0.125A

The output is going through a 10k pot, turned all the way up, in series with the analogue meter.

If i've done this correctly then :

Input : 1.6328W

Output : 4.2W

COP = 2.57

It's RPM is 12,000 !

I've been reading up on generator windings and have some ideas, will post when formulated and tested properly.


Gary.

Easy Deepcut,

Take a deep breath.  Again, you are comparing AC to DC.  This does not work for attempting to measure OU.  I have seen so many fooled by this over the years, I have lost count.  Duty cycle, etc.  Did you watch Tom's video?  Did you notice the LED's blinking?  That means the power is not "on" all of the time. 

Solution:  You MUST rectify the AC to DC using High speed switching diodes!  Place a resistor as a load at the out put, and THEN measure amps and volts, using ONLY an analog meter, that will not be fooled by a rotating magnetic field.

I say this to help you.  Also, consider what I wrote about the other coil at 90 degrees.  You guys are wasting space on both side (if vertical) for no reason.

Keep on...  ;)

Bruce
1.  Lindsay's Stack TPU Posted Picture.  All Wound CCW  Collectors three turns and HORIZONTAL, not vertical.

2.  3 Tube amps, sending three frequency's, each having two signals, one in-phase & one inverted 180 deg, opposing signals in each collector (via control wires). 

3.  Collector is Magnetic Loop Antenna, made of lamp chord wire, wound flat.  Inside loop is antenna, outside loop is for output.  First collector is tuned via tuned tank, to the fundamental.  Second collector is tuned tank to the second harmonic (component).  Third collector is tuned tank to the third harmonic (component)  Frequency is determined by taking the circumference frequency, reducing the size by .88 inches.  Divide this frequency by 1000, and you have your second harmonic.  Divide this by 2 and you have your fundamental.  Multiply that by 3 and you have your third harmonic component.  Tune the collectors to each of these.  Input the fundamental and two modulation frequencies, made to create replicas of the fundamental, second harmonic and the third.

4.  The three frequency's circulating in the collectors, both in phase and inverted, begin to create hundreds of thousands of created frequency's, via intermodulation, that subtract to the fundamental and its harmonics.  This is called "Catalyst".

5.  The three AC PURE sine signals, travel through the amplification stage, Nonlinear, producing the second harmonic and third.  (distortion)

6.  These signals then travel the control coils, are rectified by a full wave bridge, and then sent into the output outer loop as all positive pulsed DC.  This then becomes the output and "collects" the current.

P.S.  The Kicks are harmonic distortion with passive intermodulation.  Can't see it without a spectrum analyzer, normally unless trained to see it on a scope.

DeepCut

#32
April 21, 2010, 07:15:03 PM
Hi Bruce.

I'm not comparing AC to DC, i am rectifying - see 2nd and 3rd lines of my previous post.

*EDIT* But i know what you mean about duty-cycle, i saw that when i put a load on mine. *EDIT*

My bearings arrived this afternoon so am remounting the whole thing tomorrow, along with the extra coil :)

Reading these was interesting :

http://davidsonsales.com/docs_pdf/CoilPitch.pdf

http://www.bmcoi.com/CatLit/Power/TECHNICAL%20PAPERS/GEN.%20WINDING%20PITCH%20-%20LEKX3115.PDF


Gary.


FatBird

#33
April 21, 2010, 07:33:42 PM

DeepCut

#34
April 21, 2010, 07:51:46 PM
Don't thank me thank google ;+}

They are interesting aren't they ?

Especially in relation to a single-magnet rotor ...


Gary.
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