Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[vrand]

@mscoffman,

I know you want the overunity machine itself but it costs money to build it. By studying the gases which is straightforward and  inexpensive you may judge well as to whether or not there will be an OU machine. Why spend tons of money and waste months and years on building a machine which ultimately will prove underunity? This you can see in a matter of hours by studying the gases. Conversely, you can tell within ours if there's promise for OU without excuses for lack of funding or the instability of this or that.

Some have speculated that its the Gas Mixture of HHO + N2 +O2 + Combustion = Running engine

And that analyzing just the HHO to see OU would Not be the same.

Inside the combustion chamber there are all kinds of reactions happening. The smell of Ammonia says that the engine was creating NH3.  N3O is possible and that is used in race cars 

Its the mixing of the gases that could create more than the individual gases alone!

As the saying goes "the whole is greater than the pieces"   

Best regards, Mike R.

[lltfdaniel1]

The entire secret of the universe and nature is that it generates it's self, behind time everything in precreation is those unbalanced spins.

[Omnibus]

Some have speculated that its the Gas Mixture of HHO + N2 +O2 + Combustion = Running engine

And that analyzing just the HHO to see OU would Not be the same.

Inside the combustion chamber there are all kinds of reactions happening. The smell of Ammonia says that the engine was creating NH3.  N3O is possible and that is used in race cars 

Its the mixing of the gases that could create more than the individual gases alone!

As the saying goes "the whole is greater than the pieces"   

Best regards, Mike R.

No problem to study that mixture calorimetrically. Burn it inside a calorimeter rather than inseide expensive motors and what not. It will not only be cheaper but will also be more accurate -- efficiency of the motor won't interfere.

[vrand]

No problem to study that mixture calorimetrically. Burn it inside a calorimeter rather than inseide expensive motors and what not. It will not only be cheaper but will also be more accurate -- efficiency of the motor won't interfere.

The conditions inside an engine is difficult to recreate outside.  You have high compression and a high voltage arc/spark. 

The guys doing the experiment already say its a "cheap china" engine so really not a problem for them to continue to use that engine.   

Engines are cheap so might as well use them 

Regards, Mike R.

[Omnibus]

The conditions inside an engine is difficult to recreate outside.  You have high compression and a high voltage arc/spark. 

The guys doing the experiment already say its a "cheap china" engine so really not a problem for them to continue to use that engine.   

Engines are cheap so might as well use them 

Regards, Mike R.

They said "cheap China engine" as a detriment. Aside from that, think about the energy balance. Compression has to come at a cost. If it's to be a self-sustaining device the only source will be that gas mixture coming from the electrolysis. Nothing else. If the mixture, including all that proportion coming from air isn't thermally efficient enough, that is, more than what it's known to be, all that talk of OU is just a pipe dream. And here's where the study of the thermal efficiency of the gas kicks in, prior to using it further in engines and such. That step is unavoidable, especially given the overall low efficiency of motors (motor, then generator, then electrolysis, forget it).