Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[Omnibus]

Back to this:

6. All the mysterious properties attributed to Brown's gas, such as melting tungsten are simply combustion processes as tungstean wants to be W2O3

Is it true, then, that you can demonstrate the same thing with a common acetylene or some other torch? How about turning a brick into a puddle of liquid or deactivating 60Co? What was all that about?

[Omnibus]

That China genset is actually pretty efficient, as it is an OHV ICE 

They showed a running engine and powering a load, while also powering the Anton cell. To me that is VERY convincing.  They now need to make it stable so one man can operate it and show longer operation run powering a load.

A typical natural gas regulator should work. There are kits that one can get off the internet for small ICE's.

I agree. If that's made reproducible and stable that will be very convincing. Not yet, though.

[Omnibus]

Lets agree to disagree 

My new signature on this forum 
“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it”
Max Planck

Of course, that's the case. We are arguing about the method of establishing the new truth and I'm saying market isn't the criterion. There are firmly established scientific criteria for establishing novelty in science let alone novelty of such significance as the one we're discussing. Market, products and the like should be left alone for the time being and focus should be on the scientific research and its criteria to find out if what's being claimed is real.

[Omnibus]

The market approach is what's causing Steorn, Randy Mills, Mark Goldes, Perendev, Yildiz, Kapanadze, Valeri Ivanov etc. etc., you name it, to stall. That's a tragic state of affairs giving a lot of ammunition to the zealous activist naysayers incited in various ways by the powers that be.

[h2ocommuter]

Omnibus, I have to agree with one caveat,

The market approach has two sides to it, one being the world manufacturing, and the other individual replicators.

The world market is virtually impossible to breach, being sustained by consortium's and conglomerates that like what they allready have.
The other being individuals have a infinitely better chance of accomplishing dominance of the technology, being the number of replicators delivering the same product.
This is the secret in my opinion. it is not the technology but how it is widely produced.

Here we have two roads "The Fork", choose wisely and the world becomes your oyster.

Choose wrongly and you get a patent contract. This document is of no value.
If you can build a system that has "merit", you will have no problems delivering all you personally can manufacture.

Just remember SM beginning, Simple with an objective, "produce a fuel that would power an automobile, soon it was accomplished. Well some how he figured the patent process would protect his wonderful invention and it was taken from his original plan.
If we are to succeed in any of these technologies one must get over the love affair with the patent office and this wonderful protection form each other we fear.

my shinny 2 cents

h2ocommuter