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Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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hartiberlin

Quote from: Omnibus on April 25, 2010, 09:49:21 PM
I don't understand this:

What do they claim they have achieved?

Selfrunning as shown in the video !

The documentation is all scattered in different threads
at overunity.de and still needs to be translated into english.

It is mainly an open source  project by a few german overunity.de members,
mainly Oliver and Valentin.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Omnibus

Quote from: hartiberlin on April 25, 2010, 10:50:58 PM
Selfrunning as shown in the video !

The documentation is all scattered in different threads
at overunity.de and still needs to be translated into english.

It is mainly an open source  project by a few german overunity.de members,
mainly Oliver and Valentin.

Oh, I see. That's why these bits and pieces don't go together well somehow. Do they have any contiguous document explaining what they've done in a manner conducive to replication? This seems like something extremely interesting but the poor and scattered presentation serves it no justice and may ruin it.

hartiberlin

As always when funding lacks and it is only run on a hobby budget
you spend more time making new devices and experiments
before you start to document all in a resonable manner...

Give them a few more days time after these exhausting days of experimentations
and hard work..

If you want to replicate, just get yourself an Anton HHO cell
or another one, that can generate 6 Liters per minute HHO gas
with around 800 to 900 Watts Electrical input energy
and then try to modify a motor-generator as they have shown
in the videos.
This is all pretty well documented in the videos already.
No problem to follow it or not to understand it...
It is very easily done, if you follow the videos.
Stefan Hartmann, Moderator of the overunity.com forum

Omnibus

Well, I don't think the videos reveal what an Anton cell really is. On the face of it certainly is trivial but there should be aspects which make it distinct from a common electrolysis cell, if the effect they claim is real. The electrochemical systems are very temperamental and mostly irreproducible so one has to really know what the conditions of the experiment are. When you say get yourself an Anton cell do you mean I can purchase it from somewhere? To manufacture one just by seeing it in the video is impossible if it's a non-trivial cell.

Omnibus

If you inspect the electrochemical literature you'll see that the researchers couldn't agree for decades on the values of, say, the hydrogen overpotential until the Frumkin school in Russia and that of John Bockris here in the US finally began to obtain reproducible results. Too bad the electrochemistry in the States is like an orphan (they aren't too welcome in the chemical society here so they formed their own electrochemical society). It's the future of chemistry but is too complicated and people prefer easier areas to work in, with less investment and labor (thinking) and more rewarding.