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Overunity Machines Forum



Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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haithar

Quote from: Omnibus on April 27, 2010, 10:12:41 AM
There's no evidence yet to claim that and it's misleading to set up internet pages giving the appearance that it has already been proven let alone create theories to "explain" it.
i thought the same and commented the examiner article.

mr2

This looks interesting.

A couple of questions:
How much water is needed per kw worth of HHO?

Is it shure it is selfrunning, and not running of the HHO produced by the grid at start?

It is said to consume 900 Watt and output is 1000 Watt.
The motor is very poor.
The generator is poor.
The adjustment of HHO into the motor is poor.

There is possible of much improvement.

One suggestion is to use a industrial sterlingengine. Since it is gas that is produced, the combustionchamber does not need to be so big. The chamber also could contain lava-stones to have a buffer of heat. Then the only thing needed is an electronic controller to regulate voltage to the Anton-cell and a temperature sensor in the combustionchamber. Maybe even a ignitor in the combustionchamber for automatic on/off.

The sterlingengine is easier to control. It only needs heat. And it is said that the sterlingengine has a higher efficiency than a petrol/diesel engine.


MR2

haithar

Quote from: mr2 on April 27, 2010, 10:51:50 AM
This looks interesting.
It is said to consume 900 Watt and output is 1000 Watt.
The motor is very poor.
The generator is poor.
The adjustment of HHO into the motor is poor.

There is possible of much improvement.
Why is everyone overlooking the part that it was only 40 seconds and the energy stored in the system in that time may very well have been enough to run it for this time. They said they needed pressure in the cell because of the bubbler, there was very likely to be hydrogen for the motor even if the power to the anton cell was lower than before.

mr2

No, I'm not overlooking the fact that it only runs in 40 seconds.

It is obviously energy stored at the start. It would not start if there wasn't.
That's the reason for my question: "Is it sure it is selfrunning, and not running of the HHO produced by the grid at start?"

That's also the reason to my suggestion that they should use a motor that is more easy to control. And then have a motor running for longer time.


MR2

Omnibus

Quote from: mr2 on April 27, 2010, 12:26:34 PM
No, I'm not overlooking the fact that it only runs in 40 seconds.

It is obviously energy stored at the start. It would not start if there wasn't.
That's the reason for my question: "Is it sure it is selfrunning, and not running of the HHO produced by the grid at start?"

That's also the reason to my suggestion that they should use a motor that is more easy to control. And then have a motor running for longer time.


MR2

Better yet, like I said, is to study the current efficiency and the caloric value of the evolved gases prior to using to run motors.