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Overunity Machines Forum



Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

Started by hartiberlin, April 25, 2010, 02:33:30 AM

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briansahern

I will use quick reply formatting. I believe the Anton advantage comes from high voltage pulsing. Stanley Meyer used higher and higher voltage pulses to get over-unity production of gas.

mscoffman

Quote from: briansahern on April 29, 2010, 01:46:07 PM
I will use quick reply formatting. I believe the Anton advantage comes from high voltage pulsing. Stanley Meyer used higher and higher voltage pulses to get over-unity production of gas.

@Hello briansahern

User Paul-R posted this link in another thread here at overunity.com;

There is a lot about this in Patrick's chapter 10:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf

There is a lot of information on Stanley Myers system in the above
chapter. They way he used the field-strength input port on the
automobile alternator, while it is not genius, is very clever. He uses
the alternator as a magnetic amplifier of sorts for modulating the high
frequency signal onto the electrolyser feed power and then he can
control the excitation voltage level by how fast the motor turns the
alternator. Each of the three phase alternator phases drive a separate
tube plate in the electrolyser.

How much of this is necessary for overunity, I don't know. But many
overunity schemes seem to use tube plates rather flat plates. He also
may have had a human operator adjusting the output of the cell to
maximize it...Of course a computer can learn to do whatever a human
can in terms of operating adjustments giving the correct programming
and the correct sensors.

Anton if they don't have it already, is close. The problem is to stop them
from moving it into a, very expensive, very unreliable, very undesirable
ICE engine... We need to wait around for someone to demonstate it
by taking away the incompleteness surrounding Anton's demonstration,
and maybe Anton or someone else will demonstrate overunity gain in
the electrolyser.

Doing plasma in the engine is technically a challenge, it's just not worth
all that much in my opinion, without doing a whole development cycle
on the engine.

:S:MarkSCoffman

vrand

Quote from: helmut link=topic=9099.msg239466#msg239466 A=1272459024
If i read all the coments and think it over. I just scatch my head
and ask myselve,   what is going on in this community.

There is a presentation.
No connection to any grid.
The generator feeds the transformer.
The Transformer feeds the Anton and the Anton feeds the Generator
and so on.  Thats the proof!
Switch of the transformer, cause the Engine after 4-5 Seconds to die.
So at least 35 seconds water only, was the fuel.
The next step will be to build a exhaust to minimise the sound level.
And find a efficient way to control the Sparc timing and the air mixture.
The loop wil be closed . When the Exhaust guides the Water and air
direct into the Anton.

helmut

Hi Helmut,

I did not know that the generator was powering the Anton Cells, while idling for hours and that load test?!?!?

If that is true then Oliver & Valentin hit the jackpot  ;D

Now its just a matter of doing a longer engine load run, say 5 mins., at say 500 watts load.  And LOTS of people will be wanting them to build a unit for sale, or donating money for them to build more and larger units!

I thought the power to power the cells was coming from the wall plug, and they did a simple calculation to so power out > power in?

Best regards, Mike R.


Mark69

Keep up the good work!

a simple way to improve efficiency of the generator would to be to increase its compression ratio.  This could be done in several ways.  Mill the head down slightly, make a new head gasket that is thinner then the old one, or even make a system that will introduce a water mist into the intake (since water in liquid form will not compress, it will cause the CR to increase).  I am not sure what CR is max for hydrogen, but I am sure this chinese gen is probably no more then 8 to 1 or so.  Mill the head might be the best to maintain integrity for calculations later on. 

Mark

briansahern

In 1994 I was given $100,000 to replicate Stanley Meyer's work. I paid Eugene Mallove and Jeff Driscoll to visit with him and bring back one piece of information:  Does the water discolor during operation?

They believed that it did and we set out to build his power supply. That effort turned out to be too difficult and I surreneder in 1995 and gave back $26,000 to the benfactor in defeat.

Since that time I have learned that the power supply is of secondary consdieration and a modestly high voltage pulsed supply ( alluded to by Anton) will suffice.

Another group in Bologna is doing something similar. Search on Focardi and Rossi. They do not detail their power input other than to say it is 15 watts of electrical energy. I believe it is a pulsed power supply. My supply puts out 30,000 volt pulses at 13 watts.