Breakthrough with the Anton HHO cell !

[vrand]

@vrand,

That'll be great if they can convince a university to do the tests but that (the convincing) isn't at all easy to accomplish in practice. These tests require expensive specialized equipment which almost always is tied up with the ongoing research at the department. Besides, it's not just taking the sample and doing the test. Calibrations, are to be done, failures which always accompany tests have to be faced, reproducibility is to be achieved and so on and so forth. It's research and it cannot be done on a fly by night basis. As far as I understand even the likes of Santilly have resorted to paying companies to do the GCMS etc. and that has caused a lot of confusion, as is seen in Calo's paper which I cited above. What is needed are systematic studies and such studies can only be done by qualified personnel equipped with appropriate instruments allocated for that particular purpose. Usually people write grant proposals to, say, NSF for this kind of research but don't hold your breath, NSF and similar organization will never fund such type of studies. One has to be either independently wealthy to fund his own research or has to have the ability to convince investors that sometime in the future there will be a return on their investment. There are signature instances of people that have done that. I haven't heard so far of private individuals funding a project idealistically just for the purposes of establishing the scientific truth. Idealistic funding is only done by organizations such as NSF but, as I said, because of all kind of circumstances, especially political, such research will never be funded by public organizations with public money despite the fact that it is the public who stands to benefit the most from them.

I agree Omnibus. Browns Gas is "fringe science" and almost taboo in the university setting, especially after word got out that his gas can remediate  nuclear radioactivity.  That slammed the door on further experiments as current cherish science truths would have to change.

“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it”

Max Planck

Regards, Mike R.

ps the only way I see this HHO science taking off is when the common man can make or buy a unit to power his house or fuel his car.  After its in wide use, then science will take a look at it.

[Omnibus]

Way back when I carried out studies on Monti's chemical transmutation. It started promising but later the more in-depth studies revealed that what appeared to be peaks of newly appearing elements in the gamma and beta spectra are simply artefacts which have trivial explanation.

[vrand]

That's really hard to believe. Sounds like those fellows from the Kabala center here in New York City claiming that they can clean the Chernobil nuclear waste in Ukraine with their special Kabala water but I never saw it demonstrated. I hear there are commercial Brown gas installations produced in South Korea and elsewhere, so this can be verified. If you have access to funding why not try it?

Yeah if I did have access to funding I would try it out. Yull even made a video of that radiation remediation experiment. Maybe its online somewhere. It was pretty neat 

[Omnibus]

I agree Omnibus. Browns Gas is "fringe science" and almost taboo in the university setting, especially after word got out that his gas can remediate  nuclear radioactivity.  That slammed the door on further experiments as current cherish science truths would have to change.

“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die, and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it”

Max Planck

Regards, Mike R.

ps the only way I see this HHO science taking off is when the common man can make or buy a unit to power his house or fuel his car.  After its in wide use, then science will take a look at it.

This is what Gene Mallove believed in and he took me once, some 20 years ago, to a relative of his, a lawyer, to help us set up a company together. I refused because utilitarianism comes after establishing the scientific fact. Life is cruel. Science even more. If you don't have money to do the research properly too bad. No mercy. No way around it through making it appear the dream, the promise will somehow turn into a cash cow. We have a lot of examples of that, going nowhere. Even in the mainstream science.

[Omnibus]

Yeah if I did have access to funding I would try it out. Yull even made a video of that radiation remediation experiment. Maybe its online somewhere. It was pretty neat 

See, we already know how much videos are worth when such claims are to be sustained. How much would it take to get a Brown gas generator and try this darn thing? 60Co is easy to find, these are the calibration tablets for the NaI and Ge detectors. One can use even a Geiger counter for this purpose.