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made this with phun - free energy?

Started by FreeEnergy, May 10, 2010, 03:49:54 PM

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Rapadura

Quote from: dirt diggler on May 11, 2010, 10:00:02 PM
There have been many cases of people here getting similar results as you on working model, and some other programs.
Build it for real, and see what happens.

Okay, WHEN people here test my simulation on other computers, and TELL ME that the simulation is working, and it don't work just on my computer, then I can think about building it for real.

When someone tells me that my simulation really works, then I can take a real steel ball with density of 7.8 kg/m³ and weighing 11 kg, and a real world wooden rod with density of 0.6 kg/m³ and weighing 2.6 kg, and low friction hinge bearings, and build a "leveraged pendulum" in the real world, exactly equal to that in the simulation.

AB Hammer

Quote from: Rapadura on May 12, 2010, 07:39:03 AM
Okay, WHEN people here test my simulation on other computers, and TELL ME that the simulation is working, and it don't work just on my computer, then I can think about building it for real.

When someone tells me that my simulation really works, then I can take a real steel ball with density of 7.8 kg/m³ and weighing 11 kg, and a real world wooden rod with density of 0.6 kg/m³ and weighing 2.6 kg, and low friction hinge bearings, and build a "leveraged pendulum" in the real world, exactly equal to that in the simulation.

Rapadura

A real build would be easy, and only a real build will give you a real answer.

Alan
With out a dream, there can be no vision.

Alan

PYRODIN123321

Cool! Just discovered phun, I like it a lot, but I def think its just a glitch man.
Peace.

mscoffman


I recommend people try their proposed overunity
devices in phun, because if it doesn't work in phun
it probably won't work in the real world as well, for the
same reasons. It's difficult to build a device in phun
because there is no "drafting" capability (that I know
of) that lets you do exact symmetry for parts etc.

Finally, I don't think Phun takes into account wind
resistance and frictional losses, so simulations in
phun are somewhat more energetic than devices
in the real world...Ultimately though, no fully
deterministic simulator (gets the same answer
with the same input every time its run) can take
into account random chaotic events that spring up from
quantum randomness. This would have to be added
as an analysis of margins expressed as probabilities.
For example, "there is .001% probability that the machine
would stop in this cycle." These things do effect stuff
that happens in the real world and shows reality can
*never* fully be simulated in fully deterministic
computing environments.

:S:MarkSCoffman

PYRODIN123321

"reality can never fully be simulated"

-that's a good one, I like it!  8)

Peace
Peace.