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Overunity Machines Forum



Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay

Started by Lynxis, April 06, 2006, 01:43:19 PM

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Lynxis

Quote from: Omnibus on April 06, 2006, 03:09:26 PM
Why don't you try replicating Torbay's motor? You, as a Swiss watchmaker certainly should have a lot of expertise in making mechanical devices. And Torbay's motor doesn't seem to be anywhere near a watch in its complexity.

Torbay's work has caught my interest, but there are a lot of vague issues underlying it all.
As such I'm looking for "simple solutions"...

I think right now, there are some people following that thread that will be spending quite a
bit of time persuing that issue...
We'll see how that goes...

Omnibus

See, Hammel's device doesn't impress me one bit. I can show you a rotor turning if I am to hold the stator magnet and wave it the way Hammel does. Snyder's stator is stationary and I hear he has the motor already suspended on a stand (not holding it) which he'll soon show in a video. I'd like to replicate Snyder's device too. For me this will be enough to convince me forever in the validity of self-sustaining motors. I don't think also any other serious scientist would deny it either. Engineering efforts at a later stage, to bring it to a useful state, would be a trivial pursuit.

Omnibus

QuoteTorbay's work has caught my interest, but there are a lot of vague issues underlying it all.
As such I'm looking for "simple solutions"...

See, I'm curious what those "vague issues" might be for an expert watchmaker like you?

Lynxis

Quote from: Omnibus on April 06, 2006, 03:17:04 PM
See, Hammel's device doesn't impress me one bit. I can show you a rotor turning if I am to hold the stator magnet and wave it the way Hammel does. Snyder's stator is stationary and I hear he has the motor already suspended on a stand (not holding it) which he'll soon show in a video. I'd like to replicate Snyder's device too. For me this will be enough to convince me forever in the validity of self-sustaining motors. I don't think also any other serious scientist would deny it either. Engineering efforts at a later stage, to bring it to a useful state, would be a trivial pursuit.

That's what I'm afraid will turn-out with Snyders work. That once it's trying to be run in a stand,
not being hand-held (and receiving kinetic energy from the person holding it).
I'll be quite interested to see that video too... and // I sure would like to see the device being totally
disassembled (all parts exposed), reassembled and working again...
Building plans would be nice too :)

Wesley's simple tidder todder might be worth playing with till then, as that would already
constitute the equivelant of a "perpetual pendulum"...
which does not yet exit :)

The best "longest running" pendulum is still going after 165 years based on the Zamboni-pile...
The ATMOS clock is a pretty amazing clock working of of ambient temperature changes,
and runs for decades at a time before needing to be serviced.

Did you come across (via Google) // the Gary Wesley designs???
that simple tidder todder // that then service as a basis for his motor design???

Apparently he spent 4 years just on making that tidder todder to work perpetually
(or should I say before it wears out).

Lynxis

Quote from: Omnibus on April 06, 2006, 03:18:24 PM
QuoteTorbay's work has caught my interest, but there are a lot of vague issues underlying it all.
As such I'm looking for "simple solutions"...

See, I'm curious what those "vague issues" might be for an expert watchmaker like you?

The rotor portion, and portions of the stator magnets - the arrangements between
them all.
One would almost have to work with a small portion of it to understand how might possibly
work.

and in part, I think the Torbay design, might possibly be based upon what Gary Wesley discovered,
and it seems that Wesleys tidder todder might bring some understandings to this.