Self-Runner // Gary Wesley's Motor // Torbay

[emitremmah]

I am discovering some interesting things.
1) it seems the only important magnets are the ones at the end of the arc. No additional rotational force seems to be added by increasing the number of magnets along the rotor segment.
2) From 1 it seems that the stators need to be raised for a longer period then I first assumed.
3) If looking at a clock, rotor going counter clockwise. Rotor arc lead is A tail is B.
stators at 12 and 1 o'Clock will push on B with enough force allow rotor to travel from 12 to 6 oclock and lift stator. Addition of stators at 11,10,9,8,7 do not seem to improve the rotational momentum/force and may actual hinder it.
4) Dropping stator between A and B just before B seems to be the timing I need to get right.
5) I can get the second stator to rise by ensuring stators are locked in a down position in the right configuration but can't move fast enough to lock down the next required stator to keep things going by hand.
6) The lid is proving more complicated to make out of junk than I expected.

I will post more videos here and on youtube this week showing what I mean

[emitremmah]

I have posted a new video on youtube.(Save you some space Stephan )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6fKG1aB4bs
Not very important, it just shows the construction of the stator. Mainly for documentation purposes.

It seems in my configuration that 7 stators is better than 8. As in the original Torbay video.
To check the balance of the system I use 2 stators side by side. The end of the arc at the right most stator traveling from right to left will cause the rotor to go around with enough momenetum/force to lift the stator on the right. Adjustment of the balance of the stator and placement to the rotor is adjusted until this works. Then I move one location to the left. Now using the second of the original 2 stators and the next in line. adjusting until the first stator is lifted. I perform this all the way around. I then test 4 stators at a time and ensure that 2 stators get lifted at a time. This is very time consuming and because I am using such a loose setup is a bit troublesome.
The stators occassionally become unstuck from the mounting tape and I then have to realign a start again.
3 stators will result in the same
4 stators and the rotation will lift 2 of the stators.
I have used a heptagon to create the template for the 7 sides around the rotor.
I thought I had a video of this but it ran our of memory. Before I realised it I started putting on the lid - height restrictor - which isn't transparent so now when testing it is hard to see anything.

My lid is dragging on the stator supports so I am now cutting notches in the supports to allow the lid to rotate without friction. I am also not happy with the movement of some of the stators. I still believe what I have will either offer enough hope that I will now have the templates to build completely out of transparent materials or give this device a no go.

[emitremmah]

I finally got Virtual Dub from SourceForge and can shrink the size of my videos.
The original was 30Mb this one is less than 2Mb.
Here is a much smaller sized one that shows that 2 stator can lift 1 stator.
Later this week I will post 4 stators lifting 2 also so getting more than 1 stator lifting is not a problem.

[emitremmah]

I seem to be the only one working on this any more. Perhaps I should finishing reading Argentinian motor part 2. I don't think people concluded it to be a dud. And the only guy who said he got it to work never came back.

Anyway here is the next video showing that with 4 stators down the rotational force is sufficient to lift the first 2 of the 4 stators. It actually has enough force to slightly raise the 3rd. I am hoping that this exess energy will be enough to lower a stator instead. I have created a lid for this but my double sided tapes have all lost thier stickyness and the stator won't stay in place very long so I have to keep resetting thier positions. Very painful and time consuming. The lid I have right now also has far to much drag to be usefull. Just pieces of cardboard that drags on the stators when they are raised.

It is time for me to actually mill the base for the stators and to strength the rigidity of the stators. This will take the long weekend coming up. In the meantime. Enjoy this little show. My camera only takes decent resolution for 90 secs so I have to keep these short.

Hammertime

[lwh]

Hey emitermmah.

I think your arrangement has more potential than all the other replications and experiments shown here so far. 

If you look up my own experiment and conclusions you'll see where I stand on the subject of the Torbay motor (might be better if you don't).  That said, I am genuinely hoping you'll be able to follow through with your good work so far. 

If I were to make one suggestion it would be to hold off on milling the base and strengthening the stators until you've experimented with a better top-lid.  This is just to save you unecessary work, as working out the top-hat first will sort of make or break the project.  You should be able to get something working with the base and stator arrangement as it is, or not at all.  That's just my opinion based on what I can see from this distance, don't let it stop you from doing what you've got to do.

Les.