Perpetual Water Fountain Design

[Alexioco]

The balloons pressure raises the water up the tube and over the edge which is higher than the actual water pressure, the water just needs to get back into the airtight chamber to perpetuate and this is what I'm trying to figure out. Maybe a sponge could do it, like seep the water through.
Jim If you think that's a fraud then ok but continue with your own designs and stay out of mine and we ill be ok

Alex

[Pirate88179]

@ p-motion:

Really?

I guess you are wrong because Alex just did.  And so have about a thousand others I could name.  Did you not see the part of my post about the compressed air powered cars and motorcycles?  Hello?  Please try to pay attention here.

Bill

[Alexioco]

Yea I have made it and still working on it until I hopefully and finally make it perpetuate. With everything, there needs to be a power source and in this case, its the balloon keeping a constant pressure to lift the water up and around which in turn prevents the balloon from deflating...

Alex

[Pirate88179]

Alex:

So, in your design, the balloon is an energy storage device, like a capacitor, not a power source.  This is not fakery in my opinion. (memo or no memo.)

This is an interesting approach.

Bill

[mscoffman]

@all

As long as compressed air is used as a spring...As in what is
technically known as an "accumulator" analogous to a capacitor
*and no pressure is lost". I don't see why compressed air
could not be used in a perpetual motion machine. But if pressure
in the balloon is permanently lost during operation it is not
perpetual motion.

Compressed air acting against water is not the best perpetual
set- up because the air will slowly lose O2 and CO2 into the
water chemically. But there maybe systems of fluids and gases
that could be setup to work better. For example nitrogen is less
reactive. One needs a gas that has a low "partial pressure" in
the liquid.

I am not currently making a statement about the device in question,
just about compressed air and gases in general.

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The other thing is there may be a "fluid state" analogy to "dipping
bird" that use heat lost to evaporation that could do something.
For example if you use methyl chloride below the balloon? pressing
against a diaphragm against water and have the water go up and
fall on the balloon as the balloon got cooler it would shrink and when
it warmed up again it would expand...Then you could set up a Lord
Kelvin water dropper electrostatic generator...H'mmm.

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There is also that Chinese paper water water wheel that seems to
use expansion paper in water, suppose one could use expansion of
a sponge in water to do something.

:S:MarkCoffman