Bismuth core Joule thief

[resonanceman]

There are free books online in the PDF format that cover electronics.  I downloaded several myself and I went to college and took electronics.  Even at this point I still review, brush up and try to break off the rust, any time I notice it.  Most of it is just plain algebra, and 99% of time you'd be relying on a calculator which makes it so easy that it's practically cheating compared to taking algebra.  Memorizing equations is more important.  MOSFETs and Transistors are on the top of the list if you're into power applications.

Without formal training, it's really hard to think of anyone actually inventing an over unity device.  At this point, I'm thinking that if you gave the toroid to some-one TV repair shop and told them what it was made of, you might learn allot more about what was really different about it, than trying to build an over unity circuit when most attempts are failures to begin with.

Another suggestion, is to go to any place that they repair electronic equipment TV repair shop, Refrigerator Repair, Music Instrument Sales and Repair places.  Buy the repair coffee, or ask for an interview and just make friends and explain your interest in Over Unity.  Maybe, he can help you and you can help him and there can be a kind of sorcerer apprentice relationship there.

Debugging and explaining why these devices don't work is just as important as finding the needles in the haystacks and those few that may or might.  If you ask an engineer, a parallel resonant tank circuit shows more promise.  But, in detail and in nearly every situation, the energy is just stored between the inductor and the capacitor at resonance.  I did find a way around that.  You start in series resonance with a plasma bulb where it would replace a piece of wire to make a parallel resonant circuit.  If the resonant frequency is above 100KHz, a point at which plasmas never cool off and if it were florescent would actually stay on without blinking 120 times a second, the plasma can get hot enough to conduct as well as a piece of copper wire.  So, the florescent bulb would then change modes and all of the energy in parallel tank circuit would flow through the bulb.  After that it's just Q, and Q tends to be higher at higher frequencies in regard to coils.  So, a doorknob capacitor and water pipe coil would produce more light energy, and up to 1000 times more than energy in.  100 milliwatts = 100 Watts of light.

I know that a YouTube web show like Duck Busters, the over unity debuggers, isn't really Mythbusters.  But, when you consider how many quacks are trying sell garbage for gold, Duck Busters sounds allot better.

elgersmad

Thanks for your opinions.

I do not seek help from so called professionals because I am sure that what is taught in our schools is a tweaked version of the truth.
It my be 99% accurate but it is intentionally wrong in some areas.
Because of these intentional errors anyone that uses conventional training to seek OU is doomed to failure..... That is why the debunkers demand to have an OU circuit explained according to conventional rules..... conventional rules do not allow OU......if you fall for this trick  they win every time........because all they have to do is to win one argument .......and  you loose your conviction....... often  the winning argument  is silly or even unrelated to what is really going on.
All magnet motors demagnetize their  magnets........ this is a common wives tale here.
Who is qualified to make such a rule?
Did they try ALL the ways a magnet motor can be built before coming up  with such a jem of wisdom?
I don't think so.
The skeptics  do not have to prove their argument.......they just toss shit out there until some of it sticks.....then  they got a new rule.



I look at the quirks that are avoided by conventional wisdom.
One example is the spike created when a magnetic field collapses.
The JT is all about these spikes...... The so called educated people have known about them for at least several hundred years......what do they know about them?
They teach very little about how to use them ......they teach MUCH about how to avoid them .
The fact that something so common is so unstudied......it makes me want to find out more........so I experiment..

Do  you have any more information about this 100 X circuit?
A link or something?


By water pipe coil do  you mean a coil using a water pipe as the core?

gary

[Pirate88179]

@ Gary:

I totally agree with you.  All we ever heard was that the JT circuits are well known and have been around for years....great.  Then why are they not using this to light things brighter and cheaper like we are?  I use them daily in my home and I have yet to see a commercial circuit that can do what our home made designs can do.  I too find this very curious indeed.

Bill

[resonanceman]

@ Gary:

I totally agree with you.  All we ever heard was that the JT circuits are well known and have been around for years....great.  Then why are they not using this to light things brighter and cheaper like we are?  I use them daily in my home and I have yet to see a commercial circuit that can do what our home made designs can do.  I too find this very curious indeed.

Bill

Bill

The education system was not randomly changed.....it is a few very specific things.........well thought out and time tested..
I am sure that there are things built into the business world that are designed to prevent OU devices from going public.
I remember a story of John Bedini getting a visit from some thugs in business suits .......perhaps visits like this are more common than we think .

The energy industry also probably buys up any ideas that they see as threatening their profit....remember the Meyer water car showing up for sale a while back? If it had been bought by someone to develop the technology we should have heard of something by now.

gary

[elgersmad]

I think it's more important to think like you do, then remember that while you go to College.  There is still so much to learn there that you can't get faster or better than if you go there.  They can't lie too much, or your computer wouldn't work.  I did figure out some of the points where they do lie.  They will never ever tell you everything about Inductors and Transformers.  Coils and inductors by themselves, represent something so complex it should be a field isolated in Electronics, like Radar, MRI repair tech, programmer, but isolated because of actual detail.  Researching just that one subject, is the toughest.  It's scattered over nearly 200 years.  The details run through ancient articles in Scientific American, the works of Tesla, and the works of Tesla point to books published and research done in his time.  I have found that old books, really old books on the subject, some reprints on solenoids, dynamo design, don't work with your standard duracell batteries.  They'll be triggered to explode or overheat and spew whatever that is on the inside.  It burns your skin like hot coals and really fast.  But, gaining access, knowing which where and what used book stores to look into, and even searching those isn't easy.  You can't get vacuum tubes.  I have book on Vacuum Tube Design, and the publisher has no record of it, nor having published it.  They did find the individual who holds the copyright.  Yet, their gold inlay is still there and stamped plainly on the spine of the book.  So, WWI and before the atomic bomb was invented, anywhere in there, those college level electronics books and issues concerning the manufacture of inductors, transformers, electric motors and dynamos, as well as generators are so different and contain many details the others and present issues leave out.  We use MKS values Meter Kilogram Second, then there is CGS, Centimeter Gram Second.  Then there's an English Standard that include ergs as a measurement of power like a horsepower but a much much smaller unit of measure.  The facts that you learn, and detail out can be used with any set of those equations, it's just knowing which one to use yourself from start to finish on a given project.  But, the delivery of information includes details not mentioned nor given equation in the more common standard units such as MKS and CGS.

When you wind a coil, they say an air core coil cannot be saturated.  It's fairly true.  Then they commonly say, that once a magnetic core is saturated, it can't be magnetized any farther.  That's not true.  If you increase the current one ampere after saturation has been achieved, the magnetic field will intensify the same amount as an air core of the same number of turns of wire + the number of magnetic lines presented by the saturated core.  So, if you wind a coil around a permanent magnet that has north at one end and south at the other, applying power will make it stronger.  But, only for as long as the power is on.  They don't tell you that.  Most permanent magnets you buy, did have a much stronger magnetic field when they were first magnetized.  But, people get angry when they loose some of their magnetization.  So, industry maintains a common practice of reducing the strength of the permanent magnets to the point that they won't really loose any more magnetization.  It's called aging, tempering, curing, or ruggedizing.  That way, if you drop the magnet, it doesn't suddenly get weaker.  Another method is heat curing.  It actually weakens the magnetic fields produced by the permanent magnets.

So, they don't teach everything.  They just teach common practice and that is allot details and those details are important.

Now, I kept searching for bismuth iron and found an article you might like read.  I've written about using bismuth for several years and never found anyone to do anything, well I didn't think that I did.  I'm not so interested in messing with the stuff or starting a foundry.  I have done some work with ceramics and even made my own custom glow paint that can be fired in a kiln.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090522154504.htm

[elgersmad]

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090522154504.htm

This article really says something too me.  That bismuth iron composites would make super awesome magnetic amplifier and saturable core materials.  If the objective were to suddenly turn on or off an AC power source, the bismuth is squaring the saturation curve via an eddy current.

Well, if you wanted to make 97% iron and 3% bismuth, you'd need to electroplate a slug 30% bismuth and 70% iron before the priming alloy slug could work in a batch.  The melting point would have to be lowered and mixing enabled.  It may not be possible or practical except by a rotating electroplating method.  If the bismuth is going to vaporize or cannot be contained at between 30% maybe adding it to nickel instead could by that alloy time but, it may just foam right out the crucible.

If you spin the positive anode, and have two negative electrodes, one nickel iron and the other bismuth.  The ratio of current flow if 70% is through the nickel iron and 30% is through the bismuth, the anode will be coated with the alloy.  It's just a matter of keeping the anode spinning.  If anything, you need to be certain that your ionic solution doesn't produce an oxide on the anode of any of the three metals that are going into it.  So, it would be good for electroplating nickel, iron, and bismuth.