Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stefan,

I live in Manhattan and run an
institute whose purpose is to offer post secondary science courses. The goal
of the institute is also to promote and enhance science. I will keep you
posted regarding the developments with Torbay?s demonstration.

I am sending you here several links to pictures from the video showing
essential parts of the motor:

http://gggttt.host.sk/Walter Torbay and Father.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Motor Outer View.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Motor Closeup 2.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Rotor -- Disassembled 2.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Rotor -- Underside 2.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Rotor -- Underside 4.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Stator Magnet -- Front.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Stator Magnet -- Shows Incorrect Magnetization.bmp
http://gggttt.host.sk/Stator Magnet -- Top View 3.bmp

Hope these pictures will give you a better idea of how the motor is
constructed. Essentially the construction is as we discussed it in the
forum. I don?t think there were any unexpected details in it.

Best regards.

Sincerely,

Omnibus



>From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
>To: "koykoy koykoy" <koooyyy@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Meeting with Walter Torbay
>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 15:53:20 +0200
>
>Hi Omnibus,
>What kind of institute do you have ?
>Where are you based in ? In New York ?
>Can you send me a short part of the video you recorded,
>where he shows his motor ?
>Many thanks...
>Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann
>----

>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
>To: "koykoy koykoy" <koooyyy@hotmail.com>
>Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 7:54 PM
>Subject: Re: Meeting with Walter Torbay
>
>
> > Hi Omnibus,
> > many thanks for this great info.
> > But why did he bring at all a nonfunctioning motor with him?
> > Was he afraid to show a running motor or did hid
> > wood model cease to function after a while ?
> > Did you ask him,
> > if he really has a running motor at home ?
> > If yes, what loads did he drive with it ?
> >
> > How long did you speak with him ?
> > Pleasekeep me updated.
> > Many thanks..
> > Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stefan,

If the stator magnets (as well as the rotor ones) are not magnetized
correctly the motor will not work. That is what Torbay said has happened
with the replica of his motor he brought for his talk. Whoever made it
didn?t realize how crucial the proper magnetization is. It appears that this
is one of the problems madmaxx has in what he showed here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,933.65.html.

Cheers,

Omnibus



>From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
>To: "koykoy koykoy" <koooyyy@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Meeting with Walter Torbay
>Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2006 22:26:51 +0200
>
>Hi Omnibus,
>many thanks for the pics.
>Hmm, was this not the motor from Torbay himself ?
>So didn?t he bring with him his old motor with him ?
>Why not ?
>But the motor looks really quite like his own old motor...
>
>So why didn?t it work ?
>Because only of wrong magnets ?
>
>Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stefan,

Honestly, I don?t have the answer to these questions. Hopefully we?ll soon
know better what exactly is going on. Torbay was to arrive in New York
yesterday but has canceled his flight at the last minute. I was told because
of family problems. Will be expected to arrive next week. I?ll keep you
posted.

Cheers,

Omnibus



>From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
>To: "koykoy koykoy" <koooyyy@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Meeting with Walter Torbay
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 03:22:13 +0200
>
>Hi Omnibus,
>I don?t understand, why Torbay was so lazy,
>not to bring his own motor with him
>on such a long trip to the USA and
>trust in a rebuild other motor which did not work
>
>Was it not a bit embarrassing for him,that this motor
>did not work when he wanted to present it to the people
>there at the university ??
>
>Is he a bit naive or what impression did you have ?
>Or was he not allowed to show the real working motor
>ordered by Argentina government
>
>Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stefan,

Yes, he did bring a videotape to the talk, together with the model of the
motor. You can see the tv set on which they played it in one of the pictures
I sent you. I asked him for a copy but he didn?t have an extra one and said
one can find it on the net. When I told him that in fact it is nowhere to be
found on the net he promised that he?ll see to it to have it on his website.
It?s still not there, however.

Believe me, I?m asking myself the same questions. For the moment I have lost
contact with him and someone here told me that?s because of the family
problems he has. Will try to reach him again today and if I find out
something positive will let you know.

Cheers,

Omnibus



>From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
>To: "koykoy koykoy" <koooyyy@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Meeting with Walter Torbay
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 14:03:04 +0200
>
>Are you still in contact with Torbay ?
>Didn?t he at least bring with him a video
>of his running motor ?
>Can you please ask him about the online AVIs
>or can he email or upload the videos ?
>
>I don?t understand it all...
>Why did he at all come to the USA, when
>he could not show anything !
>
>Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann

[hartiberlin]

Hi Stefan,

Yes, he did show the video with the running motor. First thing which I
didn?t like was that there was music in the background and I couldn?t hear
how noisy the running motor is. Second, someone kept pulling in and out one
of the stator magnets to demonstrate how the motor can be turned on and off.
That should have been done only once, I think. Nevertheless, it was clearly
seen in the video that the motor is working in a self-sustaining mode. The
rate of rotation, however, was pretty low (that doesn?t bother me one bit ?
the very fact that the rotor makes full turns all by itself is what makes
the whole experiment significant). I asked Torbay if he has any numbers
regarding the rpm but he said he doesn?t have any. It appeared that the
rotor is turning at about 60-100 rpm. The video seemed to have been shot
somewhere out in the Nature and with that music in the background gave an
impression more or less of an advertising stunt. I have no reason to
believe, however, that the video wasn?t of a motor really working in a
self-sustaining mode.

Other than that (that video) and probably Wesley Snyder?s video, I haven?t
seen so far any other magnetic motor working in a self-sustaining mode.

Cheers,

Omnibus



>From: "Stefan Hartmann" <hartiberlin@gmx.de>
>To: "koykoy koykoy" <koooyyy@hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Meeting with Walter Torbay
>Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:34:27 +0200
>
>Okay, did he show you at least on his videotape the
>running motor ?
>So have you yet seen the "smoking gun "yet ?
>Many thanks for all the infos.
>Gruss / Best regards, Stefan Hartmann