Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[supersam]

Has anyone taken a look at the Mikell device sight?  It seems to me that the idea of a barber shop sign, made into a donut might serve the same purpose as the mechanism for raising and lowering the stators in the Torbay machine.  If you made it all 3-d by making the outer ring a donut with magnets around it, would not this serve the same purpose as lifting the stators individualy and at the same time have the extra mass to help push them down?

[supersam]

it seems obvious that there is some kind of wave action in the lifting of the stators that is going to make this thing work or not.  somebody out there has got to be able to figure this out. i haven't been able to yet.  but i think somebody will if we keep trying.  there are alot more people following the site than are contributing.  maybe we should all start contributing instead of watching and humanity can benifit, instead of watching so we can make ourselves rich.  think of the marketing opportunities alone!  gosh 1% of that ought to do ya.

[kukulcangod]

Super..I saw the site about the Mikell device I think I understand what your idea is, The spiral geometry is excellent in this world for several aplications, but also the mechanism would have to be redesigned in order to move such donut, there's where I thim the problem will be if it absorbs to much energy.
About riches ,I'm curious , how do you thing money can be made with this invention?, I don't see anyone getting rich ,but I imagine every body getting the freedom they deserve in relation to our way of life, if the machine is not "regulated" by our goverments.
Anyway is good idea for making this device better, something to consider for the future, on the other hand in the website says that the Mikell device was a boy's dream, and that it doesn't work........again I think it would be brilliant to be able to adapt the donut into the design of the Torvay motor,Can you send a design a drawing sometimes many of us can't clearly fig out what others can, .Cheers

[supersam]

kukul,
thesite also says that it is now owned by the U.S.A. i wonder why?   

[supersam]

it seems to me that by using the donut you acomplish, not only the up and down of the toray devise but you also have an in and out movment of the magnetic field .  this could have a dramatic effect on the amount of effort it takes to lower the stator.  it also seems that the mass of the donut, once started in motion could impact this as well.  i realise that it would take extra effort to get it going but if it is spinning then the mass would seem to help.  i might be all wrong on this.  after all i am certainly not an expert!