Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[Jdo300]

Haha nevermind the last post about the video. I see now that you were moving the stator magnet with your hand

[kukulcangod]

Craigy
         I also think that your design is brilliantly simple, your progress is the best  I've seen in a long time,
now for everyone, don't you find anoying not being able to control the slow motion through the progress bar of the videos in yutube?......so popular and yet so impractical?.........1.6 billion........
google had a way better format ,what's going on?

I hope you get it running by itself, the torque and speed are amazing, is not clear what seems to be the problem , is there anything else more complicated other than the obvious lack of stator lifting?

Anyway I've left my own project on the side due to my own version of a motor taking an amazing "turn", I've found yet another form of avoiding the sticky point, years in the making is a corroboration of the mayan and egyptian ideas about this, unbalancing forces are the clue ,weight into speed as David Hamel has being saying all along, is true to work......but it also brings the negative side that this ancient civilizations got out of control, becoming their own demise.
Those last words are to encourage you all to continue, the solutions are already out there to save the environment but the goverment won't let us have it for a long time,yes the military in its advertisement say it itself "get to know the technology today ,that your friends will see in 30 years, be part of the military"
We supossed to work for the few controlling the system , like cows being milked, not to be extremely rebelious about it but we are going to be dying by the millions if we don't do something about it, oil=terrorism=controlled society......two birds killed with one stone.......instead of heading for the stars and going through a higher evolutive state.....and hapiness.......so let's continue.
best regards.

[Craigy]

Hi All,

Yes i have a few posts on You tube, i am pleased to say that my video of the Torbay chasing the Gap has got almost a 1000 hits in the week its been on there, so its not just us that are interested in this, i have another video which i will post shortly that has me rambling on about what i think i will do next with the ramp problem.

As you know i have 11 magnets on the rotor. These magnets are angled to maximise the force being generated in the clockwise direction. This seemed the most logical, but after looking at how to lower the stators this force is holding the stators up. At the 180 degree point ( 0 being when we first raise the magnet) i have 2 or three magnets which run almost parallel with the edge or the rotor , pointing their lobes in the anticlockwise direction. These last magnets actually raise the stators more than the first half dozen, so clock wise force is one thing but i must sacrifice it to reduce the field at that position so the stators will go down. Also i made a perspex top hat with a 180 degree cut out so that the stators could raise when they needed to, but with improvised ramp and magnet assist i couldn't get the stators low enough to clear the perspex, Hence loud Clunk! after a good start up.

I will try again with re-positioned Rotor magnets that reduce the effect on Last stator in the sector being energised, this being the first stator that has to drop fully to the horizontal. The perspex top will have the cut out for the ramp extended to 220 degrees.
Testing by hand suggests that you don't have to push 4 stators down at the same time to get the rotary effect, all that is needed is a push to get it to the next stator , and you do that by knocking the last stator down before the magnet automatically knocks the next in line up

I Think i have concluded from my rambling that, The magnet or magnets on the rotor should also have their fields in the form of a ramp, ie strong to begin with then tapering off as we reach 180 degrees, This would work in unision with a physical ramp.

I would like to conduct torque mesurements, i have a digital scale 0 to 300 grams acurate to a tenth of a gram, does anyone know how i could hook this up to get some idea of the rotational force i am getting?

Well i'm still experimenting, and my Uncle Brian is coming from the uk to see me in nov, he is a retired mechanical engineer so perhaps he will see something that i can't.

I must say that acceleration and torque seem great until you try to ramp it down. But this must be posible , if you have ever played with one of these torbays you will know what i mean.

Cheers

Craig

[Craigy]

Hi All, this is my latest video offering, you can get an idea of the force on the stators, i am not very eloquent on camera, but i am trying to concentrate on the problem of getting that last stator down,

Enjoy

Craig

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3dDqFoS7oI

[Jdo300]

Hi Craig,

I have an idea that might help you a lot, though it may intel a bit of redesigning of your prototype to some extent.

The orientation of the magnets on your rotor looks just like the Minato wheel in its design. If you check out http://www.fdp.nu, you can see that Mr. Minato used a large stator magnet to cause the rotor to rotate; but the interesting thing is that his rotor actually rotates in the opposite direction of yours! The problem with minute?s wheel is that the sticky spot is at the beginning of the track (back repulsion) that stops the wheel from going, but once the stator magnet is past that area, the wheel accelerates through the track, and at the end, it gets a shove away from the last magnet until it reaches the sticky spot again. But perhaps you could use that repulsive sticky spot to your advantage to life the stators in front of the track. And since the magnets are angled in the direction the wheel is rotating in, you won't have the problem you are having now with the field at the end of the track being too strong to allow the stator magnets to lower. But you will need to use stator magnets with a larger pole face though to accomplish this. The larger face will allow the stator magnet to smoothly glide over the track without getting stuck between the rotor magnets.

God Bless,
Jason O