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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

Started by hartiberlin, April 12, 2006, 10:41:37 PM

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Craigy

Thats better, i was begining to think we we going dry for a bit there.I have wandered of the torbay to test my latest flight of fancy which
probably won't work. But until i convince myself it won't work, i am staying with it. should be back on the standard torbay in about a weeks time at my estimate.
Please post pictures and videos, they inspire us all to copy or do it a different way, which is all benificial to the cause.

And yes sliding magnets is not lost on me either, thats why i started building a torbay. Has anyone tried Mrd's idea of lowering the stators via a magnet on a cam at the bottom of the torbay instead of relying on the top hat ramp alone?

Craig
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joe

Hello Craigy,

  Since over 2 months now  I have tried diffirent configurations of that motor and i can't get enough torque to lift or lower the rotor.
I have order a big 6" ring magnet that i should receive this week  but the question is, will it help because i have used some small ring magnets before for the same machine and no luck. Now as i said before, problem with those rings are  that they are magnetized trough the thickness and we have a south pole on one surface and north on the other.
I have looked to get magnet with north pole only on the edge but i can't find any. Torbay probably have this king of magnet so that is why his machine has the power to move the rotors.
I don't send pictures of my rigs until i get something working. If I success with something i will spread the news for sure.

I wish success to all free energy builders!

Joe

ktm_2000

I've been following this one for a while and liked MRD's idea to lift the stator magnet with another magnet.   It seems the next issue is to drop the stator magnet.   My idea is to have the stator magnets on a sea-saw and use a top disk with magnets installed in the proper locations to move the sea saw in the proper position as required.   

here's a quick drawing of my idea;  the bottom left area is a side view of the whole thing and the circular drawing to the right is a top view of the rotational disks.  I have drawn the bottom disk with 2 sets of magnets and my drawing is quite poor but my thought would be to have 2 sets of magnets on the top disk but then have the magnets on the top disk 176-177 degre apart so that even though the top disk is out of weight balance each side of the disk would react 2-3 degrees out of balance on each side and potentially get around any sticky points.

What do you think??

ktm_2000

my drawing doesn't clearly show this so I thought I'd describe it.

The yellow lower disk would have the series of magnets 180 degrees out of phase.

The top disk would have the each side of the lift / lower magnets 177-178 degrees out of phase.

Also the way I drew this it would turn counter clockwise.

Dingus Mungus

Quote from: ktm_2000 on October 26, 2006, 01:04:28 PM
I've been following this one for a while and liked MRD's idea to lift the stator magnet with another magnet.   It seems the next issue is to drop the stator magnet.   My idea is to have the stator magnets on a sea-saw and use a top disk with magnets installed in the proper locations to move the sea saw in the proper position as required.

What do you think??

Unfortunately that configuration will bend the flux lines twards the inner top magnet, which would result in minimal flux density reaching the armature magnet. You can simulate this configuration in FEMM to see how the magnets flux lines respond, or you can experiment with a few magnets in your hand. You will notice the the two opisite poles (inner teeter totter and inner lifting magnet) will interact not allowing the inner teeter totter magnet to interact with the armature magnet. Sorry to be the nay-sayer, but I do wish you good luck and I cant wait to see your device running for the first time. I still believe you are quite close, but looking in the wrong direction if you're looking to overcome the tourqe required to lift the stator magnet. Have you ever thought about a pendulum to replace your teeter totter, or even extending the outer length of the teeter totter making it act like a lever. Well once again good luck!

~Dingus