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Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

Started by hartiberlin, April 12, 2006, 10:41:37 PM

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Jdo300

Hi Madmaxx,

The last method you mentioned is pretty much what Torbay did with his motor. It is really quite simple. If you look at the cutaway view of the motor, you can clearly see (and it's labeled) a piece of bent metal sticking out on the left side of the rotor disk which acts like a ramp and eases the stators back down into position as it slides over the top of them. This is perhaps the simplest way and will prevent the need for lots of extra mechanical pieces.

The basic breakdown is this, there are a set of rollers on the underside of the rotor which roll on ramps underneath each stator to lift them up. As we saw in Nastrand2000?s video, the stators will automatically push each other up in a sort of bubble-like way as one stator is lifted. The metal piece on the rotor would ease the stators back down again as the disk goes. But it shouldn't take much energy to do this because in effect, we are not really forcing the stator back down at all; we are just causing the bubble of lifted stator magnets to move around the stator ring. So in a way, pushing one stator down actually helps to lift the next stator.

God Bless,
Jason O

madmaxx

Here's a mockup. But there's not enough torque to lift anything. It will turn if you lift ach stator arm.

Sugestions? I know it doesn't have rollers, but even if it did there's not enough torque.
Been there done that, wouldn't do it again, if only I could remember what I did.

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cesarc

Hi.
I think that the diameter of rotor should be more great.

ewitte

That rotor looks REALLY far away from the other magnets.

AlexMalex

madmaxx,

Magnets of rotor should be bigger, better if same as stator magnets. Remember patent - 3 segments of a stator have a same rotor segment size. But in your prototype size of rotor segments is very small. In result, every stator magnet repulse only front side of a rotor magnet, but attract (or repulse in wrong direction) left-right sides, and same sides of nearby rotor magnets. Make rotor bigger, use same magnets as in stator, orient every as others, place rotor magnets closer to simulate circle magnet with solid repulse surface. When all stator magnets down, rotor should rotate easily, becouse all repulse forces in balance, but if one magnet levered - your fingers fiil the torque near gap. But problem is to put down the flying magnet, becouse 3 forces repulse it - one from rotor, two from nearby stator magnet. It seem that sum of these 3 forces are same which rotate rotor to gap. I'm afraid that metal arm above rollers in torbay's  demonstration model can't overcome these repulse forces. Where the video of working model? I'm begin to doubt on this matter.
       

Quote from: madmaxx on April 19, 2006, 11:12:18 AM
Here's a mockup. But there's not enough torque to lift anything. It will turn if you lift ach stator arm.

Sugestions? I know it doesn't have rollers, but even if it did there's not enough torque.