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Overunity Machines Forum



Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

Started by hartiberlin, April 12, 2006, 10:41:37 PM

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Aerny

sooo, you want to be rich and famous... ;D


acp

sorry to burst your bubble, but the neutral line encompasses the magnet completely, it's not a straight line at right angles to the end of the magnet that would enable you to slip in the other magnet. it follows the end of the magnet around it. You still have to overcome the repulsion that you then want to use as a power source.

regards

Albert

hydrocontrol

What about sliding the neo magnet in from the side of the ferrite magnet at the proper distant for the neutral effect to occur instead of coming directly from the top. (OOPs.. I see that already mentioned by Albert above..) Once it is on top of the ferrite back it off which then starts the repel effect. A bit of mechanical design work but I might have an idea of how to do this.. Hummm.. Off to the shop to find that bucket of mixed magnets.... always fun to find an excuse to play even if it is to check out what Albert says about the sliding effect... Hope he is wrong..
Later,
tom

hydrocontrol

Well I spent a few minutes trying to slide the neo over the ferrite. Seems to take as much energy to slide as to push.  ??? I can 'feel' the neutral point so that exist. Maybe if the magnets were specially shaped... :-[ Too bad.. I was hoping this would be an easy solution. :'(

attack duck

  Hi Al - This is why Steorn is always talking about inserting the magnet at high speed
to use the lag effect, to do the insertion before the ferrite has time to react.  Just
pushing them in by hand isn't going to cut it.  They're talking about insertion speeds of 30 us (thats millionths).  Thats moving right along folks!  Thats why nobody had discovered the effect before now.  Its gonna be a real bitch to get this to work on the kitchen table!  Also, keeping the magnets very thin could be helpful to reduce the edge repulsion, also a back side stator plate like in electric motors. 
  Steorn does not claim theres no work required to do the insertion.  Supposedly they have to put in one unit of work to get two units out even after tuning for maximum effect.  Thats another reason why the motor needs to be spun up first.
  This is where the violation of time variance of COE is the big issue!  Per COE, the
speed of insertion shouldn't matter. 

                                             Glenn