Magnet Motor from Argentina, part2

[Duranza]

As i have said before please post cad drawings in here. I'm a CNC machinist with access to lots of materials including acrylic and cast. I have built a small prototype but no cap to bring the arms down yet. Let me see what you have to see if i can make it.

[kukulcangod]

Hey Duranza How's your setting behaving so far??, Mine is working as expected without the top!! I used my fingers to make it go in sequence ,  the satisfaction that Torbay might got out of his discovery had to be incredible ,Thank you Mr Torbay only a few hundred years of skepticism have been wiped out with your invention.....the main construction problems I have found are this:

Angles in the rotor magnets are critical in a way that they have to be at certain distance and angle according to your magnet strength because I was getting rejection in the opposite way at some point ,  therefore due to my crude construction simply the rejection was not enough I had to add a second half moon which increased rejection but then I noticed that leveling the stator magnets wasn't critical anymore, just don't let them stay too low in between other side magnets or they will lock it down, if they are not cut in angles to avoid interaction among them, mine were jumping ,now they are at rest with no problem, some rejection still there and efficiency  will be affected I'm sure, but I have no choice until I calculate for the top flywheel.

I had 7 ceramic magnets the big ones from radio shack 4.5 by 2  by 1 cm, trying to avoid the fatidic "6" , they were to close and I couldn't cut them in angles my Rotozip finally got burned out!! so taking away one solved the balancing sequencing angling of the lifter wheel etc. All of this might sound daunting but just realizing that a relatively small adjustment made it ok , reveals the potential efficiencies in this motor ..just my 2 cents.

Is working partially and with materials I already had which is remarkable and couldn't wait to let you now about it.......the top is next.

I hope I could be able to download your plans Jason. cause I only have the rhino 3 demo for designing, I've heard of Dan La Rochelle he sent me pics of the relationship of the Aztec calendar and the sacred matrix and the egyptians in the Hameltech forum years ago thanks again for it..... what a convenient thing to have those magnets available.
Anyway let us know duranza how much would it cost to manufacture one of this I want to power air conditioning for my mother whom is sick and my father at this point paralized due to brain embolism.........medical costs make payment of power something impossible in a 3rd world country power still ridiculously high accordingly to water levels as well, even if you get the air conditioner the power consumption a year is about 600 to 1000 dollars a year! they are enduring 120 Farenheit everyday now. Good Luck

[gn0stik]

Kulkangod:

Nice work. Sorry to hear about your mom and dad. I'll keep them in my prayers.

All:

I've been thinking about inverting the concept. It should be possible if all of the variables are inverted.

Put the "elevables" (raisable magnets) on the rotor N sides out. Then put the half moon stator magnet on the base S side in(It works in attraction). Just BEHIND the Stator, as the rotor turns, put a wheel to lift the ramp that pops the raisable magnet up. Ahead of that, almost immediately after it's raised, above the rotor, place an armature that holds a ramp that forces the raisable magnet back down.

The torbay motor works on the concept of creating a magnetic "gradient" so to speak, with the weak spot ahead of the rotor, to keep it always in repulsion from behind. This concept should work with an attraction based motor as well, but the weak spot would have to be behind the rotor instead of in front of it, to keep it in attraction mode from ahead.

There would be several benefits with this motor over the torbay design. It could be made MUCH smaller, The magnets would last orders of magnitude longer, and there would be FAR less force required to place the rotor magnets back in place in attraction mode than repulsion. Not to mention, the mechanism to force them back down, and you'd have much less mass rotating without the ramped topcap, and lifting ramp on the rotor itself.

If it fails in attraction mode, it would be simple to configure the motor for repulsion as in the torbay device, using his concept with a different mechanical configuration, and you'd still gain more efficiency, due to the fact your not turning as much weight. Torbay's motor does a LOT of work just turning the rotor, topcap, and lifting ramp. Also, the lever style lifting mechanism seems to be a bit bulky, seems to me something far smaller could do the job, further reducing the weight the rotor has to carry.

Anyway these are my thoughts, I just had to get them down. I'm gonna make a trip to home depot to scout "off the shelf" parts that could possibly be used for the various mechanisms involved, most importantly the lifting mechanism.  I firmly believe that if people can build something like this after a trip to their local home depot, with little cutting or milling, it will spread like wildfire, and nothing the oil companies or govts of the world can do will stop it from spreading. 

Regards.

[Jdo300]

Hi Everyone,

I was attempting to put a few last minute pieces and parts on the 3D model before putting out the pieces individually for download but I didn't have enough time to finish it off. But I did take some screenshots of the various parts and pieces for you all to check out. All I have left to complete is the rollers for the stator arms and to draw in the screws, nuts and bolts to hold everything together. I will then lay out the pieces on a 2D plane so I can give you all a good estimate of how much plastic you will need to fabricate it.

@ FredWalter:

I realize that the base is too big. The person who was supposed to be fabricating this model for me would be sectioning the base up into four chunks to machine and then put them together. The model was scaled to fit the size rotor magnets that we had available.

God Bless,
Jason O

[Jdo300]

Here are more screenshots: